Orange to cap data next ?

talkalot

If this story is true then the rot with data continues.
http://www.mobiletoday.co.uk/Mobile_Exec/Orange_poised_to_scrap_unlimited_data.aspx

330d

I thought that orange iphone plans were already capped to 750mb?

talkalot

imr4n wrote: »

I thought that orange iphone plans were already capped to 750mb?

No it was a FUP (fair use policy) I myself have used 3GB so far this month.

bubblesmoney

they are a business and have a right to design their plans as they deem fit prospectively, just as customers have a right to walk with their money.

no one should have objections to prospective changes for new contracts as anyone can move elsewhere. three have made prospective changes as well while at the same time allowing existing contracts to run their course on their old terms.

but vodafone have been devious and done an illegal thing by applying new rules retrospectively to customers already on contracts under old T&C but applying the new T&C to old customers illegally. it is just a matter of time before this issue gets settled in the courts and vodafone gets their !!!! whipped in court big time. just needs one stubborn customer to take them to court and succeed and hope the court hands then exemplary punitive damages to discourage this sort of illegal retrospective changes to contracts unilaterally by companies. the UK govt has itself lost in court all the way to the house of lords when they made retrospective changes to immigration legislation applicable to existing immigrants. loads of countries have tried to implement retrospective legislation (australia, canada, uk, etc) and every one of them has lost in court ultimately, so just a matter of time before vodafone gets whats coming to them for illegally making changes to existing customers contracts (FUP to hard caps recently unilaterally).

Wh05apk

bubblesmoney wrote: »

they are a business and have a right to design their plans as they deem fit prospectively, just as customers have a right to walk with their money.

no one should have objections to prospective changes for new contracts as anyone can move elsewhere. three have made prospective changes as well while at the same time allowing existing contracts to run their course on their old terms.

but vodafone have been devious and done an illegal thing by applying new rules retrospectively to customers already on contracts under old T&C but applying the new T&C to old customers illegally. it is just a matter of time before this issue gets settled in the courts and vodafone gets their !!!! whipped in court big time. just needs one stubborn customer to take them to court and succeed and hope the court hands then exemplary punitive damages to discourage this sort of illegal retrospective changes to contracts unilaterally by companies. the UK govt has itself lost in court all the way to the house of lords when they made retrospective changes to immigration legislation applicable to existing immigrants. loads of countries have tried to implement retrospective legislation (australia, canada, uk, etc) and every one of them has lost in court ultimately, so just a matter of time before vodafone gets whats coming to them for illegally making changes to existing customers contracts (FUP to hard caps recently unilaterally).

A court case would be interesting, but UK courts do not hand out punitive damages.

robt_2

imr4n wrote: »

I thought that orange iphone plans were already capped to 750mb?

talkalot wrote: »

No it was a FUP (fair use policy) I myself have used 3GB so far this month.

So it is people like you ruining it for everyone else then?

talkalot

robt wrote: »

So it is people like you ruining it for everyone else then?

It depends on how you look at it. I have loads of talktime and unlimited texts of which I only use a very small amount. So what I don't use in that part of my allowance I use in data. If I was talking and texting all the time and using large amounts of data then yes I would say that was unfair.

robt_2

talkalot wrote: »

It depends on how you look at it. I have loads of talktime and unlimited texts of which I only use a very small amount. So what I don't use in that part of my allowance I use in data. If I was talking and texting all the time and using large amounts of data then yes I would say that was unfair.

It doesn't really work like that though - you know exactly how many minutes you have, and you know you are billed if you go over.

As far as the unlimited texts go, o2 have today said that one YouTube video is equivalent to around half a million texts on their network, so unlimited texts are not going to cause problems for other users unless they are sending millions and millions of texts.

Having said all that, my comment was only a throwaway remark

seaniboy

LOL at O2 whom text messaging was free with then they realised they could charge 10,000 times the price a text cost to send and rape us all instead of a 300% mark up at 2pence....the cheek of complaint from the network whom brought the most data intensive mobile including YouTube to the UK & had that exclusive for almost 2 half years !

Jesus....hypo2crit, anyone seen one ?

My iPhone is on Orange, whom barred tethering ! I only pay £10 a month for my data plan to be barred from tethering ! Mind you them Voda sods got well ripped off of late, Tesco Unlimited ? Yup FUP at 500MB

Ofcom is a regulatory department whom outsourced ombusman to private dispute companies whom the telcos have to pay and get ruled in telco favour !

Welcome to the UK self regulation ! Unlimited ? It isn't !!

Tesco apples unlimited £1*


* 1 per clubcard holder

Trading Standards would be all over it like flies to ....

Ofcom ? ONCON !!!!!

DrScotsman

seaniboy wrote: »

LOL at O2 whom text messaging was free with then they realised they could charge 10,000 times the price a text cost to send and rape us all instead of a 300% mark up at 2pence

More like Infinity%. Read this page. Near the end of the article someone suggests that SMSs literally cost nothing. Could be wrong of course but since all O2 contract tariffs seem to have unlimited texts...

(Not that I think it's wrong to be charged per text, but considering how cheap it is the lack of competition until recently is strange)

the cheek of complaint from the network whom brought the most data intensive mobile including YouTube to the UK & had that exclusive for almost 2 half years !

I was going to mention this, haven't all the networks been advertising using Youtube on their smart phones? On a 1GB tariff you can probably only watch less than 20 minutes per day. 20 minutes per day to use an advertised feature, was that ever mentioned in the small print?

gjchester

seaniboy wrote: »

LOL at O2 whom text messaging was free with then they realised they could charge .....

Text messaging was free on all networks originally, but then they also only worked on the same network.

SMS was never designed to be used like it is, it was more to send short simple messages top phones, more like a pager than a phone. It was only Nokia including the ability to send that started the industry off.