725,000 public sector jobs face axe, economist warns

getyourgun

Its speculation and gambling that caused house price infaltion and bubbles, using money that did not exist. We need to make speculation on house prices non profit making. Or at very least if people lose money they lose there own. Some things are too important to gamble with.

StevieJ

ILW wrote: »

What has qualifications got to do with it.
I would consider escort job to be more important and useful.
Again you are showing up another public sector attitude, " I have more qualifications, so I should be paid more" even if the job is of a lower value to society or the organisation.
You just don't get it.

Mmmm, I dare say many agree with you, well paid as well I guess

The_White_Horse

not only that, they expect their pay grade to increase every year without fail and then get a pay rise on top.

grasping filth most of them.

The_White_Horse

ILW wrote: »

Yes, just like the miners etc.
Now extinct like the dinosaurs.

and the dockers

iolanthe07

so am not looking for a load of posts saying "YOU GET £1000 A WEEK PENSIONS PAID FOR BY MY TAXES!!!!" as these threads normally descend into.

I can't be ars-ed to read all seven pages, so this point may have been made. What pi$$es off many of us in the private sector is the fact that so many public sector workers get to retire at 55-60, or even earlier, on very generous pensions paid by those who have to go on until they're at least 65.

steven77

There are a lot of people in the public sector who just want a quiet life and know they can get away with murder there, on the other hand there are a lot of hard-working people there who genuinely do want to do something for and help the local community. The problem I have at the moment is that for example I have a good team with some vacant posts, which I can't fill, and that will count as a saving, when in reality nothing is saved as they've been vacant for months, which only punishes those of us who do work hard.

Andy_L

mbga9pgf wrote: »

Military. They gave us the same scheme that the CS whined like little b*tches to the high court about. We took it like men. They took it like nancy socialists.

I was under the impression that the Armed Forces didn't have a statuatory/contractual redundancy scheme but instead were offered a package devised at the time (and which, historically, has always been better than the CS redundancy terms applying at the time)

2001GT

Our Military are well taken care off in terms of pay, many many allowances, and of course pensions

Thrugelmir

2001GT wrote: »

Our Military are well taken care off in terms of pay, many many allowances, and of course pensions

A Royal Marine Commando starts at around £15,700 PA.

I have a friend with 2 sons in the Marines both in Afganistan currently on active duty with the Americans.

I call that cheap labour.

Rochdale_Pioneers

I am fine with a cull of wasteful public sector jobs - but not now. Canada did its cull with the economy in growth - surplus employees were able to transfer from non-productive public sector jobs into productive public sector jobs.

But what will happen with cuts here now? No private sector jobs to go into so what we'll do is take people from the employment list and pay them benefits. Yes, we save their salary. We then lose their economic spending of their spare cash, we pay them dole money, housing and council tax benefits, tax credits. Their decrease in spending puts people in the private sector out of work. We then pay them benefits and so on. The notion that we can save £6bn by putting people on the dole is laughable - it'll cost us most of that in lost tax revenues and benefit. And crash the economy putting yet more people out of work. Or we could do as the treasury mandarins reportedly advised Laws - do nothing. We cut £20bn off the deficit by growing the economy. They forecast a further £60bn off the deficit by reflating growth this financial year. Osborne will bin the £60bn of "cuts" by pushing through £6bn of ideological cuts.

We have a deficit because tax revenues fell off during the recession. We reflate the economy, we get the tax revenue back. Yes, we need to cut the structural deficit and tax revenues won't recover all the way. But the bulk of the deficit will disappear in the same way it appeared - economic activity. Threaten the recovery and we really are screwed.