Visiting USA with a criminal record

mrmichaelf

They have access, it doesn't mean they can use it.
Example, if you go for a job interview, you have to sign a declaration that you give permission for them to perform a CRB check. You have to give prior consent.

Anyway, I very much doubt US immigration have instant access either way, so they would be none the wiser.

mrmichaelf

FH_Brit wrote: »

The big point you are missing - NOT UK law = US and if you don't give permission, Gues What - They won't let you in!!! And they have your name/passport number etc from your application so they "flag" you!

"I know someone who visted NYC 2 months ago with previous charges of drug dealing and delcared nothing. The more I think about it, the more I think I will be ok. " Just because they got away with it don't mean you will and good luck - Drug Dealers are not allowed in the USA under any circumstances! Visa/ESTA don't matter - he has lied asnd that's dishonest and thats the whole point the USA don't want UK crooks and liars. You deserve everything you ask for! I dare you to give me your name and I'll let the DHS know and see what happens to you!

"USA's pathetic immigration law" Such a pathetic place - THEN DON'T COME HERE!

"The law is far from fair though" - Typical criminal attitude - you poor, poor dishonest, undesirable you! IF YOU CAN'T DO THE TIME (OR PUNISHMENT) DON'T DO THE CRIME!!! The law IS fair, there are ways to do things, like using the law against your partner, instead you took it upon your self to settle things - if you had used the law you would not have a criminal record now and even your partner may have!!!

Bleeding heart criminals make me laugh! - Come on come over here, hopefully you'll get pulled over by the police for speeding, running a stop light, or in the lager loutish behaviour of what we are used to nowadays you'll get drunk and do something and then you'll see what the Americans do!


Rabid - "Thats 100 percent incorrect. Lots of people have access to it without having to ask your permission." Not So, (certain Government Security agencies ONLY) anybody else is governed by the DATA Protection Act that prevents the exchange of personal information storred electronically.

But, as my crime isn't of moral terpitude, I don't have anything to worry about.

My point being, my friend who was wrongly convicted of armed robbery has to apply from a Visa using his own time and money, because he was arrested of a crime of this kind. He was proven to be innocent, yet because the US stipluates these stupid rules, he still has to apply for one.

Why do you dare me to give you my name? Is that some kind of threat? What would you succeed?

US immigration will not have access to my criminal record, they have no reason to try and obtain it, and if they did, there is argument that I have honestly answered the question on ESTA.

You also are mentioning that if I cant take the pupnishment then don't do the crime. I did the punishment thankyou. I was slapped with community service, later reduced. That was my punishment. The magistrates mentioned nothing about messing about with Visa's.

You are merely scaremongering.

mrmichaelf

And I will play by the rules. I will answer no to the question asked, as I believe that is the correct and honest answer.

rabidmonkey

FH_Brit wrote: »

OK - I gave my opinion only to point out where you will find out the truth, not rumour, gossip or incorect thoughts from people who don't know.

Say you who beleives

a) you can answer no to moral turpitude if you were arrested but NOT convicted,

FH_Brit wrote: »

Arrest is NOT a conviction .......
If the question states "Have you ever been arrested?" that is different, and in that case you must admit to arrest but that probably will just make the OHS look a little deeper and get the info from the UK Police.

You don't have the foggiest what the question is on ESTA do you. You dodge that question as it proves you don't know it asks about arrests as well as convictions.

and doesn't have a clue what information is used in determining why the ESTA is approved or not

FH_Brit wrote: »

And the fact that he has been approved for his ESTA proves my point - although they ask it does not exclude you from US entry as - Guess What? - no charges mean he is innocent!

As I said - They'll check a little further but no conviction = no offence.

You seem to beleive that ESTA checks ALL convictions and arrests at that point against a list of CiMTs. If you answered YES to that question you are refused at that point, if you answer NO except in specific instances) you aren't.

b) beleives the consulate gives out telephone advice

c) beleives that that advice is legally binding on the US

FH_Brit wrote: »

it needs to be asked to the people that will/will not allow him into the USA - exactly why I refered him to ESTA site an Embassy site a few posts ago!

Consulate won't give out telephone advice, they state you must get a visa, even their website states that. Consulate advice is also not legally binding on the US.


and alledgedly you

FH_Brit wrote: »

I (having a law qualification)

Obviously in an area where you may be taken seriously, but here you are totally wrong.

mrmichaelf

Just to clarify I was convicted for the crime of harassment

Quentin

FH_Brit wrote: »

I studied Law at Kings College London Law School - so as FH Brit might suggest, I am British and my law degree is a UK qualification ! ! !

Why you wasting this top law qualification (we in UK have kindly paid for you to get) by becoming a debt collector in Florida and spending work time pontificating about things you know little about on the net?

(To say nothing of you returning to threads you told us you'd left for ever, then insisting on answering questions after blasphemously telling us you won't do it anymore)

Are you on something cool???

Nobjocki

I'll just repeat to the OP what I said a few hours ago.
Just don't mention your minor record - nothing will come of it.
Enjoy the trip.

mrmichaelf

Q

Nobjocki wrote: »

I'll just repeat to the OP what I said a few hours ago.
Just don't mention your minor record - nothing will come of it.
Enjoy the trip.

Thanks. I will do that.

FH_Brit

I am not arguing anymore - a difference of opinion exists - You are obviously always right - I will remove all my postings as it REALLY is not worth it!

You have been reported toMSE for personal offensive remarks.

FH_Brit

You STILL carry on - I am not arguing with you - You are not worth it!