making up time due to lateness

jimbms

ringo_24601 wrote: »

Some of us have contracts which state we must work 'extra hours' when needed. I put in a total of 28hrs unpaid overtime last week (not including the 24hrs of 'on call').. It's a one off, it happens, and our company will get good press out of it.

15 minutes.. cry me a river

A one off is very different than daily that some companies expect, point of interest: the DoE state that reasonable unpaid hours should not be more than 5 per week. If you wish to put up with doing that many hours unpaid then fine it's your choice. Me I wouldnt put up with it, unemployment is so low here not many companies would dare ask it.

Mr_Falling_Star

ringo_24601 wrote: »

Some of us have contracts which state we must work 'extra hours' when needed. I put in a total of 28hrs unpaid overtime last week (not including the 24hrs of 'on call').. It's a one off, it happens, and our company will get good press out of it.

15 minutes.. cry me a river

Whose fool are you then?

To me you give you time,skills and labour in return for a wage. You are nobodys slave and deserve to be renumarated. If you choose to do that voluntarily fair play to you. Its when people are not there voluntarily that its wrong.

Soubrette

jimbms wrote: »

A slight bit of trivia and food for thought for everyone: If you counted up the estimated amount of extra time worked without pay by employees in the uk it would be equal the standard hours worked by one hundred thousand employees. so remember when you work these hours for free you are keeping people on the dole.

Sorry for stalking you today

But I wish these kind of statistics would be taken into account when the CBI announces how many days are lost when workers surf facebook, take time off sick etc

and vice versa of course.

For myself, if I get into work early then I don't mind starting for free (or not if I don't feel like it). I do expect to leave on time or get paid.

Sou

DVardysShadow

ringo_24601 wrote: »

Some of us have contracts which state we must work 'extra hours' when needed. I put in a total of 28hrs unpaid overtime last week (not including the 24hrs of 'on call').. It's a one off, it happens, and our company will get good press out of it.

15 minutes.. cry me a river

I think you make jimbms' point rather well. 28 hours unpaid in a week. A one off. But if it is unpaid, I can't imagine you ever go home on time. You probably put in 150 hours unpaid in 6 months. So you and 5 like you are working your nuts off to stop someone being taken on all for a pat on the head from management.

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DVardysShadow wrote: »

I think you make jimbms' point rather well. 28 hours unpaid in a week. A one off. But if it is unpaid, I can't imagine you ever go home on time. You probably put in 150 hours unpaid in 6 months. So you and 5 like you are working your nuts off to stop someone being taken on all for a pat on the head from management.

Nah, it's a once or twice a year we have to put in those extra hours (and that is in our contracts). i don't normally put in any free overtime in the month. Hell, i usually go home a bit early since I don't take much of a lunch break. We nearly always get a monetary 'Night on the town award' when we've done those one-off extra hours and they put me up in a nice hotel whilst I did that work.

Putting in those extra hours often puts you into a different category when it comes to our annual review, and can double your payrise

DVardysShadow

ringo_24601 wrote: »

Nah, it's a once or twice a year we have to put in those extra hours (and that is in our contracts). i don't normally put in any free overtime in the month. Hell, i usually go home a bit early since I don't take much of a lunch break. We nearly always get a monetary 'Night on the town award' when we've done those one-off extra hours and they put me up in a nice hotel whilst I did that work.

Putting in those extra hours often puts you into a different category when it comes to our annual review, and can double your payrise

That is perhaps a little different. At least they acknowledge it rather than assume you will do it.

ERICS_MUM

51235 wrote: »

Hi,

Just wondering what others views are on this -

I work for a large outsourcing company, who do not offer temporary staff parking and so we have to rely on the bus. On Saturday morning I waited 25 minutes for a bus that is supposed to come every 10 minutes, and as such, was 1 minute late for work. They have told me that I must make up 15 minutes for this 1 minute of lateness.

I am not a regular offender-I have been late twice in 15 months, both times due to unreliable buses. I am happy to make up time that I have missed (1 minute in this case!) but I do not feel I owe them the other 14, so why should I make them up? I am frequently stuck here 5-30 minutes after my finishing time, and am not paid overtime for this, nor is it acknowledged in any way at all. I am only a temp, so not keen on rocking the boat too much - I am probably being petty worrying about this 14 minutes, but I am not well at the moment and it's like this is the straw that broke the camels back, as it were.

What do you think? Is it unreasonable of me to argue this, or is it unreasonable of them to expect me to "donate" 14 minutes of my own time? It's really infuriated me, although I can't put my finger on why!

TIA

I've now read all your posts in this thread and I can confidently say that your company is managed by idiots. Quibbling over an occasional minute's lateness and similar, whilst not cracking down on repeat offenders is the quickest way to build a team of disaffected staff who don't care whether or not they do a good day's work. They resent management and they also resent their colleagues that regularly take liberties.

This is lazy management, or the management are just not upto the job.