making up time due to lateness

pinkshoes

My employer has the same rule for shift workers, but if they're a minute late, they lose 15 minutes of pay, with no opportunity to make up the time.

I wish they'd apply it to my office, as we're supposed to start at 8am, yet there are SO many lazy people who turn up up to 30 minutes late, yet don't get told off, and seem to be permitted to just stay a bit late! I get in 20 minutes early every morning, but if ONLY I could leave 20 minutes early too!

Your employer ought to take into consideration your past record and let it go given it's pretty much a 1 off!

chocsessential

Is there a way of leaving work on time so that you are not stuck with working unpaid overtime every night? Are they giving you tasks to do at the last minute?

51235

I thought i was doing the best thing, as they run off a report at the end of each month showing log in and out times. It would be picked up then anyway, so thought it would look better if i held my hands up and offered to make the minute up.

I have checked my staff handbook and my contract - other than disciplinary action, neither document states anywhere that 1 minute ofmissed work = 15 minutes of made up work.

SueC wrote: »

I'm amazed that anyone would report themselves as being late, for the sake of one minute, on such an intangible measurement tool.

But setting that aside, assuming that you have indeed signed up to this clause (which would be worth checking) you do seem to have a problem of your own making. I think they call it shooting yourself in the foot!

Ten out of ten for honesty though.

getmore4less

51235 wrote: »

I think the most sensible option is to look for something else - being a temp, i don't want to end up unemployed! Saying that, I hate how people are feeling so trapped - I think the company are really making the most of it and just relying on the fact that some of us are happy to have a job at all.
But I will certainly discuss with my agency, and make them aware. After all, they aren't getting paid for me doing extra time either!

I am certainly going to get a copy of all the extra minutes I've got though - they can add it to all the holiday pay I'm owed when I leave, seeing as they will never authorize holiday either

Thanks very much!

How long have you been there without a break in contract?

15 month in a previous post is it longer?

Have you had multiple contract or is it on the same one?

Temp status does not really exist if continously employed you get the same rights as "perms".

paulwf

I'm going to stick my neck out and say I think their system is actually a good one.

If you are a manager of a large workforce then you need to make sure everyone is on time. Unlike with a small business with a couple of staff with a large workforce you can't pay attention to each member of staff so need simple rules in place.

Making you work 15 minutes sounds like a reasonable incentive not to be late again. Some companies would give a verbal warning or note it on your file or refuse to let you work that shift, but 15 minutes extra work is a good "slap on the wrist" without being over the top.

For a large workforce the managers have to be seen not to discriminate so the same penalty no matter if it was 1 minute or 10 minutes and no matter what the reason sounds fair. Your overtime at the end of the day and your illness and any times you come in early aren't part of the issue. As I said before for a small workforce you can be more flexible (which is why I MUCH prefer working or managing small businesses) but it's harder to do that with a large number of staff.

Kate78

Paul WF has a good point, I work in the reception area of a large organisation.

If I am late it is noticed, but the number of people who work in back offices who come strolling in 10, 15 minutes late (from apprentices to middle managers I might add) is astounding.

And it's always the same offenders too... :mad:

In reply to the OP - if you're subject to log on times and your department are really fastidious about it you've got no chance. I worked as a temp in a call centre and everything is analysed - even how long you spend on a loo break! :rotfl:

jimbms

chocsessential wrote: »

Is there a way of leaving work on time so that you are not stuck with working unpaid overtime every night? Are they giving you tasks to do at the last minute?

Yep, you stand up get your coat and go home dead on time as it is your legal right to.

[Deleted User]

Time to start leaving on time I think.... Or, suck it up and count those '15 minutes' within those extra minutes you spend after your contracted hours.

jimbms

A slight bit of trivia and food for thought for everyone: If you counted up the estimated amount of extra time worked without pay by employees in the uk it would be equal the standard hours worked by one hundred thousand employees. so remember when you work these hours for free you are keeping people on the dole.

[Deleted User]

jimbms wrote: »

A slight bit of trivia and food for thought for everyone: If you counted up the estimated amount of extra time worked without pay by employees in the uk it would be equal the standard hours worked by one hundred thousand employees. so remember when you work these hours for free you are keeping people on the dole.

Some of us have contracts which state we must work 'extra hours' when needed. I put in a total of 28hrs unpaid overtime last week (not including the 24hrs of 'on call').. It's a one off, it happens, and our company will get good press out of it.

15 minutes.. cry me a river