What sort of carpet?

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  • wallbash
    wallbash Posts: 17,775 Forumite
    I didn't even know you could get different 'qualities' - what/where to look (for)?

    Thats our main problem . How do you compare one small piece of carpet with another? Maybe some of 'our' experts can look/ feel/ smell and come up with an answer . I can't. So I go with advice offered by the salesman . Look at the labels , perhaps I have been lucky , have not regretted any of the carpets/ Lino I have bought.

    Waiting for my next carpet to be del/fitted.
    Biggest purchase yet as its combined living/dining area . 40 sq metres.
    Hopefully next week , paid already .
    So have put my money where my mouth is :rotfl:
  • LandyAndy
    LandyAndy Posts: 26,377 Forumite
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    OK, so I'll look for something 80/20 wool/nylon and go independent rather that big firm. Underlay - what's the deal with that then? I didn't even know you could get different 'qualities' - what/where to look (for)?

    Buying an expensive carpet in a high traffic area - put a decent underlay under it.

    Buying a cheap (throw away in 3 years) carpet - put cheap underlay down.
  • daveyjp
    daveyjp Posts: 13,312 Forumite
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    wallbash wrote: »
    Thats our main problem . How do you compare one small piece of carpet with another? Maybe some of 'our' experts can look/ feel/ smell and come up with an answer .

    All the samples have a label on the back giving information you can compare. It should contain the fibre mix and the thread count. Higher thread count the better.
  • wallbash
    wallbash Posts: 17,775 Forumite
    As I posted
    Look at the labels , perhaps I have been lucky/

    Yes its the thread count that 'counts' :D
    But what about the mixture ? info always helps.
    I think some people who knock carpet right buy a carpet far too cheaply to start with.
  • bryanb
    bryanb Posts: 5,029 Forumite
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    wallbash wrote: »
    I think some people who knock carpet right buy a carpet far too cheaply to start with.

    Does that include the carpet fitters who knock them?
    This is an open forum, anyone can post and I just did !
  • bosseyed
    bosseyed Posts: 475 Forumite
    Get a 100% nylon carpet, wear your shell suit and go everywhere with lively hair.... :D

    Seriously, I've always stuck with an 80:20 nylon wool mix which keeps the cost down and doesn't feel like sandpaper.

    And as others have said, its worth getting a nice underlay - the underlay often costs more than the carpet, but its one of the main things to consider dependant on the traffic of the area. I've had cheap carpets that feel nice thanks to some decent underlay.

    Love the smell of new carpet too.
  • bryanb
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    bosseyed wrote: »
    Get a 100% nylon carpet, wear your shell suit and go everywhere with lively hair.... :D

    Seriously, I've always stuck with an 80:20 nylon wool mix which keeps the cost down and doesn't feel like sandpaper.

    And as others have said, its worth getting a nice underlay - the underlay often costs more than the carpet, but its one of the main things to consider dependant on the traffic of the area. I've had cheap carpets that feel nice thanks to some decent underlay.

    Love the smell of new carpet too.


    Did you mean 80:20 wool nylon?
    This is an open forum, anyone can post and I just did !
  • wallbash
    wallbash Posts: 17,775 Forumite
    Does that include the carpet fitters who knock them?

    Perhaps the fitters make more money ( which the consumer pays ) working for an independent rather than Carpet Right.

    Can't see how some fitters can complain about carpets from Carpet Right , the choice is so large , and all prices.

    Ps my carpet finally gets laid Monday.
  • Paul_the_Painter
    Paul_the_Painter Posts: 764 Forumite
    edited 10 June 2010 at 10:04PM
    Used to sell carpet for a shed.

    Rule 1 ignore 50% off - they are ALWAYS 50% off

    Rule 2 ALWAYS buy your underlay online - and watch out for headline price, and delivery charges, I've just bought mine from a site that was nearly the most expensive per roll - but after delivery and the other things I needed was the cheapest.

    Rule 3 NEVER pay delivery charges - they will say otherwise, but simply an optional charge for the daft.

    As to what carpet you should have, I would have either 80/20 wool/other stuff or 100% polypropylene.

    If your tidy and careful 80/20 :- it wears better, but it will take a stain, as it is a natural fibre

    If you're like me 100% polypropylene :- the wear is good, and you can normally bleach clean it if neccessary, believe me I need that! But buy a good quality one, of the same quality it won't be a lot cheaper than an 80/20, maybe 10-20% less.

    Look at what the carpet shops put on the floor - they all (OK most) put down 100% polyproylene, but one of a decent quality.

    Fitting - more of a minefield, but unless you know someone - and know that they are good (and of the 6 fitters who worked for me only 2 maybe 3 would be allowed to fit carpet in my house) just go with the recommendation of the shop - then you have some comeback - the real savings come from the underlay and accessories anyway.


    My Deal

    30m2 underlay (cloud 9 type - not actually cloud 9 but thicker)
    4 door bars

    £105

    30m2 40oz polypropylene

    £350

    28 sticks gripper - free (know the fitter) - the time honoured price is £1/stick from the fitter - don't buy it off the internet and expect him to fit it for free though, unless you have got a totally private quote from him and he knows all about it beforehand. The fitter is under no obligation to fit anything other than is on the invoice from the carpet shop. (£10 note can cure this problem though, a £20 note can cure the problem of you not clearing the room of old carpet/underlay/furniture)

    fitting 30m2 for 2 beds and stairs landing

    £75

    Delivered and fitted

    Total £530

    That's near the limit of what you'll get, you may get a slightly better deal, I perhaps could have gone harder on the carpet/looked around a little more. But even if you end up paying £100 more than that total, the salesman is by no means jumping up and down!

    Top tips -

    Clear your rooms - totally - the fitter will charge for doing it, and you can do it for free
    The fitter will not clear the old carpet/waste unless you chuck him some cash - the shop will charge a fortune to do it, the fitter loves a £20 note!

    Remember the fitter may well leave you his card - if you use his services - but not via the shop - you can't go back to the shop if there is a problem, it may be worthwhile for you, but consider it carefully.
    Unless it is damaged or discontinued - ignore any discount of over 25%
  • i just want to share with you,the types of carpets which i have just read, and want you to know, and you can also choose accordingly which suits you.
    The carpet market is a huge market, with lots of types to select from. Here are 12 different types of carpet and what they will offer you and your home.


    Woven
    Woven carpet is produced on a loom that is very similar to woven cloth, being cut pile. There are numerous different colored yarns being used and the whole process is capable of producing very intricate patterns from designs that are pre-determined. Generally, woven is the highest quality of carpet available.


    Tufted
    This type of carpet is produced on a tufting machine by using either a single colored or sometimes a non colored yarn. If non colored is being used, then the carpet will be dyed or printed with a design as a separate process. Carpets that are tufted can either be cut pile, loop pile, or a combination of both. Machines can produce a lot more meters of carpet than weaving, and they are usually at the lower end of the market.


    Needlefelt
    The needlefelt type of carpet is a bit more technologically advanced. They are produced by electrostatic attraction of individual fibers that form a unique carpet with extremely high durability. You can normally find needlefelt carpet in the contract market such as in hotels or other places where there is always going to be a lot of traffic.


    Flatweave
    The flatweave carpet is created by interlocking warp and weft threads. The types of oriental flatwoven carpet include soumak, plain weave, and tapestry weave. This type is not well known in the North American region, although it is very popular in the orient and Japan.


    Hooked rug
    This is a simple construction of rug that is handmade by pulling strips of cloth such as wool or cotton through the meshes of a very sturdy fabric. Now, this type of rug is generally known as a handicraft.


    Knotted pile
    With knotted pile carpets, the structural weft threads will alternate with a supplementary weft that will rise from the surface of the weave at a perpendicular angle.


    Cut and loop piles
    The cut and loop pile combines both looped and cut fibers. They provide a variety of surface textures for medium durability. Cut and loop carpets are available in either solid or different colors. The several different layers in this carpet can hide dirt and footprints in formal and informal areas.


    Saxony
    Saxony consists of tightly twisted cut piles that are heat set straight. They consist of two or more fibers that have been twisted together in a yarn, and they provide a very soft texture for informal as well as formal areas. They will show each and every footprint and even marks from vacuum cleaners.


    Textured saxony
    Textured carpet is the best selling and it works well in informal areas due to the very soft feel. They are tightly twisted and texture headset for medium durability. They also offer a multi colored look that will hide tracks and footprints.


    Plush/velvet
    Both plush and velvet are lightly twisted and offer a uniform color. They are very soft and offer more level than textures. This type of carpet is ideal for formal areas due to it's luxurious appearance.


    Frieze
    Frieze is a highly twisted cut pile type of carpet that is suited for high traffic areas. It has short fibers that will tend to curl in different directions at the surface to hide footprints and vacuum marks.


    Level loop pile
    The level loop pile is constructed by weaving even loops of yarn into carpet backing at both ends. This type of carpet is durable as well as track resistant, due to the strong loops. Higher loops in the carpet will create a more luxurious look. They are also great because they will prevent dirt from filtering on into the carpet.


    i hope that will be quite useful to you to decide WHAT SORT OF CARPET?
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