Strange question re blood, fish and bone feed

pookiewn

Very strange question, but.... If I feed my veggies with this, does this then mean that they are no longer suitable for vegetarian consumption? Has me baffled!

Thank you

stilernin

pookiewn wrote: »

Very strange question, but.... If I feed my veggies with this, does this then mean that they are no longer suitable for vegetarian consumption? Has me baffled!

Thank you

I'm no expert but I can't see that it is any different to plants growing in soil where insects and bugs have died ...

.... or


...... down hill from the cemetery :eek::eek:

Sorry, I'll get my coat

katholicos

stilernin wrote: »

I'm no expert but I can't see that it is any different to plants growing in soil where insects and bugs have died ...

.... or


...... down hill from the cemetery :eek::eek:

Sorry, I'll get my coat

I live right next door to a cemetery....:eek:

I'd never thought of that, but i'm doing raised bed and container gardening mostly so it doesn't really come into the equation. Though when we stop and think about it, yes, soil is decomposed organic matter...things that have lived at one time or another, including people.

To dust we all return though so i hope i can help someone elses growing endeavours when i've shuffled off

stilernin

katholicos wrote: »

but i'm doing raised bed and container gardening mostly so it doesn't really come into the equation.

I wouldn't be so certain. Many years ago I read an ancient book from the library that was just about watering plants. When / how often / how much and why and I am sure it said that the roots of some vege plants went down over 5 feet.

Finefoot

what about when it rains heavily? Does the water migrate to your garden?

Mojisola

pookiewn wrote: »

Very strange question, but.... If I feed my veggies with this, does this then mean that they are no longer suitable for vegetarian consumption? Has me baffled!

If you are a vegetarian who is a veggie because you don't think animals should die for you, it would be hypocritical to use animal by-products to grow your veg. It would be like being veggie and wearing leather.

pookiewn

Thank you for the interesting thoughts!

Mojisola wrote: »

If you are a vegetarian who is a veggie because you don't think animals should die for you, it would be hypocritical to use animal by-products to grow your veg. It would be like being veggie and wearing leather.

I fully agree although I'm not a veggie (not sure I'd survive!), a friend of mine is and I regularly cook for her and as I was feeding some of my plants this evening it made me wonder if perhaps now I couldn't feed them to her now!

I think I tend to agree with soil being all sorts of broken down matter, animals included. Perhaps I'll just keep it to the veg she doesn't like :eek:

stilernin

Mojisola wrote: »

, it would be hypocritical to use animal by-products to grow your veg. It would be like being veggie and wearing leather.

On a serious note, this is quite an interesting conundrum.

Almost all agriculture uses manure (an animal byproduct) on the land. If animals were not bred for meat, there would be a relatively small number of domestic animals and there wouldn't me enough moo-poo for the ground. The argument for dairy only doesn't hold up for vegetarians either because of the slaughter of bull calves.

Dare we ask if there are any MSE veggie allotmenteers here and if they use manure, chicken poo, blood, fish and bone etc and what their views are?

I am not being confrontational, I just think that this is an interesting debate.

Pazu

Hi
I'm vege and am going to start gardening in the autumn (jungle to clear first).:rotfl: I have used blood, fish and bone in the past but will have to have a rethink and see what else is available. I became vege as a child because I didn't like meat and growing up on a dairy farm in the sixtys saw a lot of cruelty.
Again, not being confrontational, I do get a bit fed up being told what I should or shouldn't do being vege ie not wearing leather shoes. (sorry) I am not a shining light, just someone who doesn't eat meat.
Thankyou for raising an interesting point. Can someone tell me where the thankyou button is?
Pazu

Yorkie1

Pazu wrote: »

Hi
Thankyou for raising an interesting point. Can someone tell me where the thankyou button is?
Pazu

If you look at the post you wish to thank, at the bottom right hand side are a number of icons / buttons - including one which says "Thanks". Just click on that.

Mojisola

stilernin wrote: »

On a serious note, this is quite an interesting conundrum.

Almost all agriculture uses manure (an animal byproduct) on the land. If animals were not bred for meat, there would be a relatively small number of domestic animals and there wouldn't me enough moo-poo for the ground. The argument for dairy only doesn't hold up for vegetarians either because of the slaughter of bull calves.

Dare we ask if there are any MSE veggie allotmenteers here and if they use manure, chicken poo, blood, fish and bone etc and what their views are?

I am not being confrontational, I just think that this is an interesting debate.

It is interesting. I have seen some articles on vegan gardens where fertility is maintained with green manures and leaving land fallow for periods to rebuild fertility but whether that could be replicated on a larger scale is doubtful.

Whenever we take a crop off the land we take away fertility and it has to be replaced somehow. The best answer for vegans is probably human sewage. Parts of China have kept the soil fertility up for generations by recycling their waste.