Police Caution - Tell employer??

borders_dude

x-Princess-Vikki-x wrote: »

Hi,

OH got a police caution for assuault this week. However he has just started a new job.

Does he need to tell his new employer??
His job requires him to work with kids ages 11+

Thanks.

Does he need to, thats a bit different from should he tell them.

In accordance with law, does he need to them no.

In accordance with his contract of employment and the policys of the employer, probably needs to.

Should he? yes, he should be open and honest with his employer, especially if asked out right.

Hopefully he will get the chance to explain his actions, but he shouldnt lie about the circumstances. Tell the truth at all times.

If he loses his job it will be a shame im sure, but without sounding harse there are and should be conseqwuences for those who break the law, and it does appear on the face of it that your OH has since he has recieved a police caution.

Good luck with whatever he decides to do.

jeffgeorge

Hi OP

I had a police conviction last year and when really worried about it posted for advice on here and got really unwanted opinions about what I had done ect and how it was wrong and the advice given got me really agitated and upset. People told me I would loose my job and were passing opinions about stuff that was nothing to do with them ect.

Anyway I never lost my job I ignored the nasty self rightous people on here some who like other peoples misery and seem to get joy out of saying oh they will be sacked ect and learnt a lesson about these boards.

My avice would be for your partner to be honest, write it all down and discuss with his manager straight away. I believe that yearly and random CRB's are needed by most organisations, particulaly those working with vulnerable groups.

Please have hope. Many organisations will support if there is reason to obviousley.

Hope things work out

JG

joanne_d_3

I got a police caution for "harrassment" , i got into a row with a neighbour over bloody kids and it got a bit heated.

i asked the officer would it show up on a check as i too work around children and i was assured that although the caution is put on file , it isnt accessable for employers etc to see. I was told it was only held on a record in my local station and then if nothing else happened in a specific amount of time then it would fall off my record.

I know people will jump in and tell me that im talking crap but this is true.

I would advise the op to actually ASK the police officer / station who issued the caution . At least then you will get the correct way of it. As soon as i was cautioned that was the first question i asked as i didnt want my employer finding out (and to this day they never have....)

joanne

Raksha

I know somebody who has a caution for drug possession on his file - he was told it wouldn't show up on his CRB, but it did. To accept a caution you are admitting you are guilty of the accusation, why shouldn't this go on a CRB?

ellie101

My ex had a caution for assault. He was a probationary teacher at the time... he told his employees.. they were okay about it.

I think it can and does depend. A caution is not the end of the world. He even managed to get a job in a secure unit working with teenagers after another offense.

He told me all of this was self defense.... perhaps this helped but who knows.. But I don't think there's always a blanket ban. If your OH is in the job already he may be okay.... I'd advise being upfront, or speaking to the police for advice.. as is it possible to get CRB checked at later date anyway?? If he keeps quiet it may come out, and he'll always be worried.

Savvy_Sue

Rather than telling his manager, it would be sensible to find out who is responsible for CRB checks in his organisation, and talk to them.

His manager probably doesn't need to know: the person who sees CRB checks probably does, as this will be repeated at some point in the future.

DVardysShadow

Savvy_Sue wrote: »

Rather than telling his manager, it would be sensible to find out who is responsible for CRB checks in his organisation, and talk to them.

His manager probably doesn't need to know: the person who sees CRB checks probably does, as this will be repeated at some point in the future.

And being a bit paranoid, keep a copy of a formal letter you write to the CRB officer, in case they forget to file their copy.

Savvy_Sue

DVardysShadow wrote: »

And being a bit paranoid, keep a copy of a formal letter you write to the CRB officer, in case they forget to file their copy.

Yes, but I'd start by asking how they want it disclosed. I know when I ask for disclosures with application forms I say they should be in a sealed envelope with the candidate's name on, and that's the way it stays until after shortlisting. If a colleague had to disclose something, I'd expect them to talk to the Manager who sees CRBs, and then write something, again in a sealed envelope. It's up to the manager what they record, BUT it needs to be kept confidential, on a 'need to know' basis, and if you're not sacking someone then who needs to know?

Actually another helpful bunch for the OP should be NACRO.

x-Princess-Vikki-x

jeffgeorge wrote: »

Hi OP

I had a police conviction last year and when really worried about it posted for advice on here and got really unwanted opinions about what I had done ect and how it was wrong and the advice given got me really agitated and upset. People told me I would loose my job and were passing opinions about stuff that was nothing to do with them ect.

Anyway I never lost my job I ignored the nasty self rightous people on here some who like other peoples misery and seem to get joy out of saying oh they will be sacked ect and learnt a lesson about these boards.


JG

joanne_d wrote: »

I got a police caution for "harrassment" , i got into a row with a neighbour over bloody kids and it got a bit heated.

i asked the officer would it show up on a check as i too work around children and i was assured that although the caution is put on file , it isnt accessable for employers etc to see. I was told it was only held on a record in my local station and then if nothing else happened in a specific amount of time then it would fall off my record.

I know people will jump in and tell me that im talking crap but this is true.

I would advise the op to actually ASK the police officer / station who issued the caution . At least then you will get the correct way of it. As soon as i was cautioned that was the first question i asked as i didnt want my employer finding out (and to this day they never have....)

joanne

ellie101 wrote: »

My ex had a caution for assault. He was a probationary teacher at the time... he told his employees.. they were okay about it.

I think it can and does depend. A caution is not the end of the world. He even managed to get a job in a secure unit working with teenagers after another offense.

Hi guys,

Thanks to everyone for the replies Especially the above posters.

He went straight in to work the next day and told them and they said it was fine, thanks for telling them. He can keep his job :T

Happy endings all around, he only got the job last week :eek:

Will make sure he keeps himself to himself from now on!

thanks all.

Savvy_Sue

Just to remind him though that when he comes to renew his CRB in this job, or do a new one for any other job or voluntary work, he should disclose this so that it doesn't look as if he is trying to hide it.