Police Caution - Tell employer??

x-Princess-Vikki-x

Hi,

OH got a police caution for assuault this week. However he has just started a new job.

Does he need to tell his new employer??
His job requires him to work with kids ages 11+

Thanks.

Raksha

A caution will appear on a CRB - you OH's employer should have a child protection policy which will explain what their policy is on different offences appearing on a CRB.

IMHO, yes, your OH should tell their employer about the incident.

inmypocketnottheirs

In light of the CRB requirements, I would say so.

junkmayle

He will almost certainly loose his job if you do and will be unable to get another one that needs a CRB check.

kingfisherblue

He definitely needs to tell his employer. He is likely to lose his job as a result, and might not get another job with children or vulnerable adults again as the caution will show on all enhanced CRB checks in the future.

If your OH does not inform his employer and is found out at a later date, he would almost certainly be dismissed for gross misconduct as he has a responsibility to inform his employer of this caution.

ETA: It will also go against him if he decides to volunteer with children or vulnerable adults.

Takoda

Well on some teaching applications it says that something showing up doesn't alwasy stop someone working with kids.

If he tells his employer and explains the circumstances then he gets to explain it first rather than waiting for it to show up on a CRB and then being on the back foot!

I'm assuming that he had a good 'reason' for the assault like defending himself or someone else who was defenceless or whatever. If it was random, drink fuelled violence then expect the employer to take appropriate action.

ecoelle

I agree with Takoda.

If he tells them now he shows that he recognises the impact it may have and he gets time to tell his side of the story, rather than them finding out in 3 months time, when the CRB comes back, and them thinking the worst.

I am also assuming there was a reason behind the assault, rather then him just deciding to thump someone for no reason.

Snuggles

If he doesn't tell them straight away, he will almost certainly lose his job as soon as they find out. Attempting to conceal this is the worst thing he could possibly do, and would you want to live with the constant worry of when he would be found out?

Also, as he works with children, the police are likely to inform his employer under the notifiable occupations scheme (assuming he gave his employment details to the police).

He needs to approach his employer without delay, tell them what's happened, and give them a written account of the circumstances. If the employer finds out from someone else first, they will not look favourably on his lack of honesty, never mind the fact that he has a caution for assault.

Once he tells them, it will obviously be a decision for them as to whether they keep him on or not. Having a caution does not prevent a person from working with vulnerable groups, it is down to the employer to decide whether this means the person presents a risk, and this will largely depend upon the circumstances.

viktory

Takoda wrote: »

I'm assuming that he had a good 'reason' for the assault like defending himself or someone else who was defenceless or whatever. If it was random, drink fuelled violence then expect the employer to take appropriate action.

ecoelle wrote: »

I am also assuming there was a reason behind the assault, rather then him just deciding to thump someone for no reason.

Is there ever a 'good' reason to assault someone? Surely if it was self defense the Police would not have issued a caution?

Weirdlittleman

viktory wrote: »

Is there ever a 'good' reason to assault someone? Surely if it was self defense the Police would not have issued a caution?

Yes but this is MSE where everyone else is always in the wrong....

DVardysShadow

viktory wrote: »

Is there ever a 'good' reason to assault someone? Surely if it was self defense the Police would not have issued a caution?

At the petty end of things, the police and CPS do not really care about the finer points. The only tests are 'in the public interest' and 'likely to secure a conviction'. The government have put the police on targets for results, so effectively the 'public interest criterion is always fulfilled. And if the witnesses stack up wrongly, the victim can be the one cautioned because the 'likely to secure a conviction' test is also met.