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What classes as 'living with'

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  • Oldernotwiser
    Oldernotwiser Posts: 37,425 Forumite
    Yep, youre spot on! Shame the rest of them arent quite as bright.....!

    Most people would have had the sense to edit their post when new information came to light.
  • Most people would have had the sense to edit their post when new information came to light.

    If everybody edited their posts following new information, the threads wouldnt mean a thing. :whistle:

    Edit: just to show i can!
  • Deepmistrust
    Deepmistrust Posts: 1,205 Forumite
    Most people would have had the sense to edit their post when new information came to light.

    Actually editing posts way after, is rather senseless.

    Once a significant time has passed, then monkeybutler would be right to assume that editing it would mean subsequent posts responding to his original (unedited) post, would no longer makes sense.

    I'm baffled by the interest in the moment Monkeybutler replied though. It's seems to be causing quite a stir.

    Edit: Oops I see Monkeybutler beat me to it.
    All over the place, from the popular culture to the propaganda system, there is constant pressure to make people feel that they are helpless, that the only role they can have is to ratify decisions and to consume.
  • As I posted on the other post, how do my two posts make me a liar????

    I stated my situation on the other post, asking for advice based on us living together (as we currently are).

    I asked on this post what classes as 'living together' so that if that if has to move out and back in with his parents, then how many days could he stay around without living here (as I am pregnant, he wants to be as supportive as possible). We are NOT trying to work to system, on the contrary, we are trying to do all we can to remain living together but if we cannot afford it then we will do all we can the support eachother whilst living apart.

    Really hoped that this site would provide help, but had some horrible, shameful comments from some.

    Thanks to the few that did offer some advice.
  • kb92830
    kb92830 Posts: 120 Forumite
    To me you will find it hard to justify to the authorities that you are not a couple. My GF lives in the UK and I live in Switzerland and we are still seen as a couple even though we are in completely different countries for all but 4 days a month. Good luck with yoru searching but if you live under the same roof you will find it hard to justify that you are both single.
  • clairec79
    clairec79 Posts: 2,512 Forumite
    To me if you are splitting bills equally then you are living with each other regardless of where either of you sleeps.

    You are more likely to be treated as a couple than the couple who sleep together every night but each keep a seperate residence and just one turns up at 10pm and leaves the next morning before 8am.

    Otherwise those with a partner in say the forces or who work on oil rigs so are away for months at a time could claim as single when they will admit they aren't, it's just circumstances preventing them from living in the same house, same as the above poster
  • Welshwoofs
    Welshwoofs Posts: 11,146 Forumite
    Op:

    • You live together
    • You share the bills
    • You're having a child together

    By any definition you are a couple.

    Your problem is that you are expecting your income to cover debt repayments and benefits were never intended to pay off someone's debt, but to cover the cost of basic living needs.

    Rather than try and defraud the state by manufacturing a false situation to maximise benefits (which will get you into a world of trouble should you be caught out), all your partner needs do is get in touch with the CCS which is a debt advice charity who'll deal with his creditors and make a token payment offer (could be low as £1 per creditor per month) until financial circumstances change.

    The only reason you can't manage is his large debt repayments per month. Sort those out and you have no need to consider drastic measures like living apart.
    “Don't do it! Stay away from your potential. You'll mess it up, it's potential, leave it. Anyway, it's like your bank balance - you always have a lot less than you think.”
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  • Thanks for your considered responses, I have been to the CAB today and feel much better about it. It is only a case of us surviving until January when I can begin part time supply teaching, which will then leave us with another to get by. We would never bring our child up apart for any period of time, if we had decided to go down the 'moving out' road, it would have been short term and in the best interest of my whole family.

    Were gunna try toughing it out, and cutting back as much as possible, and forgeting beneifts. I love the fact that its the people who work hard, pay ridiculus amounts of tax that can't get help when they need it for a short time.

    Thanks for the advice (and insults by some), I won't be posting again due to the posts of some on this and the other thread.
  • sunnyone
    sunnyone Posts: 4,716 Forumite
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    Thanks for your considered responses, I have been to the CAB today and feel much better about it. It is only a case of us surviving until January when I can begin part time supply teaching, which will then leave us with another to get by. We would never bring our child up apart for any period of time, if we had decided to go down the 'moving out' road, it would have been short term and in the best interest of my whole family.

    Were gunna try toughing it out, and cutting back as much as possible, and forgeting beneifts. I love the fact that its the people who work hard, pay ridiculus amounts of tax that can't get help when they need it for a short time.

    Thanks for the advice (and insults by some), I won't be posting again due to the posts of some on this and the other thread.

    people here will never condone fraud and thats what you posted about wether you believe that on not.

    Everyone pays tax and you are treated just like everyone else so dont feel sorry for yourself, if you were considering having a child why didnt you save before hand?

    You have debt and no benefit will pay your debts for you and thats your main problem, not the benefit system which is a safety net and people earning £30k per year (thats just his salary from your posts) dont get benefits.
  • mgirl_2
    mgirl_2 Posts: 43 Forumite
    Thanks for your considered responses, I have been to the CAB today and feel much better about it. It is only a case of us surviving until January when I can begin part time supply teaching, which will then leave us with another to get by. We would never bring our child up apart for any period of time, if we had decided to go down the 'moving out' road, it would have been short term and in the best interest of my whole family.

    Were gunna try toughing it out, and cutting back as much as possible, and forgeting beneifts. I love the fact that its the people who work hard, pay ridiculus amounts of tax that can't get help when they need it for a short time.

    Thanks for the advice (and insults by some), I won't be posting again due to the posts of some on this and the other thread.

    I'm sorry about the hard time you have had - on here and in real life. Goodluck with the new baby and wth the teaching when you get back into work.

    You might not see this, but I just wondered whether the CAB talked about tax credits? Sounds like you might be eligible as a household, and if you go to the HMRC website there is a trial calculator on there. Might help?
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