working tax credits, help needed.

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SAMHUZZ

the overpayment wasn't my fault. It was an error on the part of the Tax Credit Office. When I received the demand, I took up a complaint using their own wording as given in the Tax Credit Act itself.

If your overpayment wasn't your fault - ie did they ignore important information you gave - then you don't have to pay it back!

£3315 - what did they say caused the overpayment?

I went from being a single claimant to couple, but because it was near the end of the year I asked Tax Credits to stop paying me as I thought there would be a large overpayment. They didn't stop the money. In the meantime I'd change bank accounts, removed my name from the account that the money was going into - so i had no way of knowing.

verystressedneedhelp

quick question which is a long shot but if i can get hold of my ex... and explain all this to him and tell him what needs to be apaid and he agrees. say in email?? would i be able to use that to show hmr that he has said he will pay the outstanding money??

as on their website it says we need to sort it between us say we both pay half or one pays more or all of it!

so would i be able to use an email of him saying he will pay it all as proof??

toonbaz

if he was to agree to pay it all, he would need to write or contact the overpayment helpline to tell them this.

dktreesea

I wonder if there really was an overpayment. Both the DWP and HMRC are notorious, imho, for under/over/plain wrong calculations. I would suggest asking them exactly how much was paid in that year, and on what basis have they determined there was an overpayment. Does the date the claim ended coincide with when you split up? If you split up earlier, then how did they decide on the date they are using?

It could be that the overpayment, if indeed there was one, is due to their administrative error, and not becuase either you or your ex had not informed them properly of the situation. If this were the case, then they should just write off the amount owing.

verystressedneedhelp

emm this is what i thought and i dont trust him at all to contact them and say he agrees to pay it back... even if he does tell me he will.....

and i need to ring them again so i will get all info i can...after lookign more into all this it makes me relise that its more trouble than its worth... i mean you have 30-40 days to tell them of any changes..even if you do and they fail to make note of it you still looked at as though it is your fault...!!! its wrong on so many levels..

all i can think of doing is contacting hmr getting all details and if he does agree to pay which he should has he had money not me... and its not overpayment i have recieved...tell them he has said he will pay it back..and send them a copy or email...so i covered my back and see if he does contact them...

this is all if he agrees to pay for his mess!!!!!!!!

mum24boys

Iv been following your post and im very sorry for all the trouble your ex has caused. I think you are being too nice about this. I would be ringing TO and telling them your ex has committed fraud, you have received no money for your child from them and put a new claim in for yourselves now. I would also tell them you are not paying a penny in over payment until this is sorted. I would also contact the CSA and get some money from your ex to pay for his child. You should not have to suffer like this because of 1 man and his greed. Your ex could well find himself in alot of trouble for this. Plus make sure you have your own bank acc that he has no access to and have your money paid into it.

verystressedneedhelp

im just trying to get it all sorted without more trouble..i moved on and got new partner new home ect and just want it sorting i dont want to keep having letters sent to me regarding a cliam i canceled years ago.
i contacted my ex through a mate and he said he doesnt know anything about all this and that he hasnt recieved a letter stating the overpayment.

however i was told by the hmr that we both recieved the same letter???

he said he will ring them when he is back at weekend to see what is what and see what he can do..the bit i am not happy abotu is he is talking about it as though he is going to do it just for me as though it nothing to do with him... apart from that i couldnt give 2 fingers towards him.

am i right when i say we would have both got the same letter??? and a i right in saying that even if we do have to pay i will only have to pay half of the total?? this is what i understand from what i have read on hmr website!!!
and also am i best to ring hmr and tell them everything again and that my ex has said he will contact them.. do you think it would help if i got a contact number fromy m ex and gave it to hmr so they could contact him if he doesnt them???

also does it have to be in wirtting or my ex ring hmr to say he will pay the overpayment if he agrees?? becuase if i could get himt o say it on a email wouldnt that be enough to send it to hmr as proof and that is the reason why i wouldnt have paid???

i just want this over and done with its all i think about from when i wake up till i got sleep...i never had to deal with anything to do with hmr like this before...and its between u lot on here helping me and info from their website i feel i am able to fight my cornor!!!!

verystressedneedhelp

rang hmr again and they have told me that he was recieveing the money and it was for the peroid betweent he claim was set up and then i rang to say we were not together, and i wanted the claim to end.. but they say there was a delay on this happening..

anyway theyhave also said that they cannot get hold of my ex...i know he is working and arouund as i contacted him by email..but like i said before i dont trust him and i doubt he will ring them if he is at risk of having to pay anything back....

the bit which got me today was when hmr told me if they were unable to contact him i would have to pay it all...this is nto right at all.. i didnt get a penny of the money and yet i could have to pay the overpayment back.

i am trying to be nice to my ex and get an address off him and number so i can pass that on to hmr so they can try contact him... why should he be able to get away with this...

also i have a frm coming as i think i shouldnt have to pay it and also tell them again the whole story...

just what i need before i go on hol!!!!!!!!!! he seems to know how to ruin my plans and make me feel like poo without being in my life. : (

toonbaz

i wouldnt let it worry you too much and certainly dont let it spoil your hols. if they are sending you an overpayment dispute form then any recovery of the overpayment will normally be put on hold whilst they are dealing with that. just fill the form in as quick as you can, it may be worth asking for a copy of the original application to see if you did sign it or if he possibly signed it without you knowing.

verystressedneedhelp

cheers toonbaz harder said than done...this being playing on my mind since i got letter.... and after trying to talkt o ym ex well, he dont give 2 flying so and so's.

i want to contact hmr and ask for all info from them regarding this claim however i have tryed to ring now for last 3 and ahalf hours and cant get through and by time if inish work it will be closed, and havent got anymore big enough gaps in work.
so i am going to write to them to ask for all info. however i am unsure which address to send it to..
does anyone know what the address is for sure???

thank you and im sorry for all questions i feel like a fish out of water : (