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ESA and Medical Retirement

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As an ESA (contribution based) claimee - I have the option of taking medical retirement from my long term past employment - providing me with an income of around £7500 pa

What will happen to my ESA claim - if I go down this route ?

I have read differing views - some say "You will lose it completely" - some "You will still get the full amount" - some "You will lose it £ for £"
Anyone got the definite rules for this ?
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  • seven-day-weekend
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    AFAIK you will lose 50p in the £ from your ESA for every £1 of Occupational Pension over £85 a week.

    Example : Pension of £100 a week, you would lose £7.50 from ESA.

    My husband claims Incapacity Benefit and his Teachers' Pension and money is deducted from his IB as I stated above, but he still gets SOME IB. I'm pretty sure CB ESA works the same.
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  • 50Twuncle
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    edited 29 May 2010 at 10:42AM
    Do you have a link for this ?
    I can't see it mentioned anywhere...
    I have a lump sum invested - which DWP are aware of - this made no difference to my (CB) benefits
  • seven-day-weekend
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    edited 29 May 2010 at 10:44AM
    http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/DisabledPeople/FinancialSupport/esa/DG_171896

    (From the above link):

    Pension income rules

    If you receive contribution-based Employment and Support Allowance and have a gross pension income of more than £85 a week, the amount of benefit payable will be reduced by half of the excess.

    The excess is the difference between £85 and the actual pension income. For example, for a pension income of £100, the excess is £15. The amount of Employment and Support Allowance payable is reduced by half of that, which is £7.50.

    If you receive income-related Employment and Support Allowance, any pension income you have will be taken into account, regardless of the amount.
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    Also note that claimants on IB who are also in receipt of High Rate Care DLA are exempt from the deduction for ill-health pensions, but there is no such exemption for claimants on ESA

    More info about ESA here

    http://www.cpag.org.uk/cro/wrb/wrb205/calculating_esa.htm
    I'm a retired employment solicitor. Hopefully some of my comments might be useful, but they are only my opinion and not intended as legal advice.
  • 50Twuncle
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    So - if I was to receive say£150 per week - I would lose £32.50 per week of ESA ?
    Thats not unreasonable, I suppose
  • seven-day-weekend
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    21Twinkle wrote: »
    So - if I was to receive say£150 per week - I would lose £32.50 per week of ESA ?
    Thats not unreasonable, I suppose

    Yes, that is correct.
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  • 50Twuncle
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    Also note that claimants on IB who are also in receipt of High Rate Care DLA are exempt from the deduction for ill-health pensions, but there is no such exemption for claimants on ESA

    More info about ESA here

    http://www.cpag.org.uk/cro/wrb/wrb205/calculating_esa.htm

    That's very interesting - I wonder what else has "slipped by unnoticed" in the change to ESA ?
  • NASA_2
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    21Twinkle wrote: »
    That's very interesting - I wonder what else has "slipped by unnoticed" in the change to ESA ?
    It was only some IB claimants - not all.
  • 50Twuncle
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    What decided who is affected ?
    Post-Code ?
  • 50Twuncle
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    edited 29 May 2010 at 12:08PM
    AFAIK you will lose 50p in the £ from your ESA for every £1 of Occupational Pension over £85 a week.

    Example : Pension of £100 a week, you would lose £7.50 from ESA.

    My husband claims Incapacity Benefit and his Teachers' Pension and money is deducted from his IB as I stated above, but he still gets SOME IB. I'm pretty sure CB ESA works the same.

    Is occupational pension paid only at "normal" retirement age ?
    I am in my late 40's - so am not going for an occupational pension - more a retirement on "medical grounds" pension - which "may" be treated differently - how can I find out ?
    "Entitled to" doesn't help - I can put my income in and it just says "OK What about housing benefit" ?
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