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Help - appealing speeding fine

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  • blued
    blued Posts: 698 Forumite
    Number of feet from the camera?
  • Jimbo_78
    Jimbo_78 Posts: 18 Forumite
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    I have been trying to upload the photo from the speed camera to this thread. Struggling, don't know why they don't make it simpler? I put the photo onto photobucket.com but not sure how I upload it here?

    When I tried I got a message saying - "Sorry as a new user you are not allowed to post with links. This is done to stop spammers clogging up the site. Please edit your message below to continue"

    Am I doing something wrong??
  • DaveF327
    DaveF327 Posts: 1,160 Forumite
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    edited 27 May 2010 at 6:43PM
    Ok, mystery solved. I drive that road every single day on my way to (and as part of) work and am familiar with every metre of it.
    Paradigm wrote: »
    :) Briefly. Just read 'em again.

    Roughly where does the 50 limit start? You say 6-7 miles, any chance you could find it?
    Leaving the M61 to join the A580, you are greeted by the following pair of signs:
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    OK, I'm stumped - what does that 60 marking signify???

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    It's an identification number used to identify the camera that took the picture. It's nothing at all to do with the speed limit.

    As previous posters have shown, there are plenty of 50 repeater signs along that route, the latest one is visible here just before the camera (visible in distance):

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    Sorry it wasn't the news you wanted to hear, but I'm afraid the speed limit is most definitely 50 for several miles eastwards of the M61 junction until the Pendleton roundabout underpass, after which it drops to 40 for a further two miles until you pass Salford uni, where it drops to 30 just before the junction with Adelphi St. At no point eastwards of the M61 does any 60 limit exist. The marking showing the small square looking "60" is of no defence and does not even resemble any official encircled speed limit markings, so unless you can hire celebrity lawyer "Mr Loophole" who can prove some other procedural impropriety, your goose is pretty much cooked.
  • Paradigm
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    Thanks DaveF327...

    If the signs where you left the m/way are the same as the 1st photo above then, barring an error in procedure or paperwork, it's not worth fighting.

    As mentioned you may be offered a speed awareness course. If not it would be cheaper to pay & accept the points.
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  • Jimbo_78
    Jimbo_78 Posts: 18 Forumite
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    Oh the shame... :rotfl:

    Guess I'll be paying the fine but for all you competent drivers out there don't underestimate the folly of driving in a foreign country even if you share a land-locked border together. There are many subtle differences, cameras definitely easier to spot in Scotland!!!

    Thanks for the advice anyhoo... :T Glad I didnt have to try upload a pic on here, or my computing know how would surely have been called into question also.

    Regards.
  • Raksha
    Raksha Posts: 4,570 Forumite
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    Sorry we couldn't be more positive Jimbo, but Brownie points for taking on the chin ;)
    Please forgive me if my comments seem abrupt or my questions have obvious answers, I have a mental health condition which affects my ability to see things as others might.
  • jimbms
    jimbms Posts: 1,100 Forumite
    The 60 is only a guidence marking for the GATSO image and is not under any TSRGD marking or TRO, thus not an actual sign, the actual 50 roundel (TSRGD 670) is the actual regulatory sign in accordance with the local TRO you have to obey, you exceeded the limit and got caught now pay up.
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