Undertaking on motorways

Jakg

tr3mor wrote: »

In my view, if there's room to safely undertake then I'm not in the wrong.

^ this ^

Undertaking is a bad idea no matter what... but if you have space to do it safely then the other drivers aren't using the lanes right.

In a MLM situation I wouldn't undertake, but overtake them and make them aware of my presence. If they are in the outside lane needlessly I wont even hesitate and go straight past...

Paradigm

BillTrac wrote: »

Actually you are wrong. You cannot undertake just because the lane you are in can move faster than the lane to your right.

Yes you can. You've actually quoted the relevent passage from the highway code in your reply! Where does it mention stationary traffic??

BillTrac wrote: »

Read the highway code.

Good idea

BillTrac wrote: »

It is actually illegal

No it isn't! There is no specific motoring offence of "undertaking"!

Mark_Hewitt

LandyAndy wrote: »

I'm sure plod would take a dim view of that:o.

That's not to say I haven't done it too;);).

I've had it done to me and didn't like it much. I pulled out to overtake a lorry in plenty time because I could see someone was in Lane 2 and they would be alongside if I'd pulled out any later. They overtook in Lane 3 and then cut right across my front going back to Lane 1. Obviously they had to pull back to Lane 2 a couple of seconds later.

iolanthe07

It is actually illegal (undertaking)

No, it isn't. It is frowned on in this country because drivers are too dim/badly trained to be aware of what is going on around them. The advice in the Highway Code is not to do it, but this does not have the force of law. The plod may do you for driving without due care and attention, but there is no absolute offence of overtaking on the inside.

Mankysteve

BillTrac wrote: »

Your gf was really WRONG!!

He did read the highway code. It says in congested traffic where the left hand lane is moving faster than the right its permissible to over take which what the lady did.

Where does it say the vehicles have to stationary? Does that mean on two carridge road with car slowing down to turn right I can't pass him till he's stopped.

PZH

phoodless wrote:

The world is full of ignorant, braindead people - usually found on the motorways of England.

Flearoy wrote: »

down dear. If you find the world a bit much, I believe the moon is rather empty.

Oh - I'm very calm, hence the simple overtake manouver.

The flash of the lights and the beep of the horn is to try and wake up the braindead or simply ignorant person that I have to go around....

flyingscotno1

Undertaking in theory should never be necessary. On urban motorways at peak times it is often unavoidable.

The police would prosecute for careless driving, but that would require a lot more than just passing on the left- high speed differential/over the speed limit for example.

I often end up undertaking folk due to traffic conditions, but other times more dubiously, as I'm in a faster moving exit lane- the police seem to look the other way these days, similar to the no buses in lane 3 rule.

I am wary however of undertaking muppets in lane 2 without a care in the world. If they move over, you could end up in trouble.

Markyt

BillTrac wrote: »

Actually no it isn't fine. It is actually illegal

Quote the law that states this.

Clue: there isn't one.