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help working out gas and elec bill please

brians_daughter
brians_daughter Posts: 2,148 Forumite
my grandmother is going away and will be away when her bill is due, she always pays the bill the day it arrives but as ashe will be away she wants to work out what she has used so far and pay that before she goes (told her to hang on but she wont)

I cant get my head around how it all works, so hope someone can help

she has m3 gas meter and has used 367 units, she pays 25.76p daily fixed rate and 2.7p a unit. last bill was 90 days ago so thats £23.19 in daily charges - but whats the cost of her gas usage?

For electric she has used 3855 units (yes 3855 according to her last bill, estimated) she pays a daily rate of 15.89p and 7.97p a unit for electric. Its been 90 days since her last bill so thats £14.30 but what is her elec useage bill?

sorry to sound thick and thanks in advance, i really dont get it my oh deals with our energy..

Anna
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  • RedBern
    RedBern Posts: 1,237 Forumite
    367 x 2.7p = £9.91
    3855 x 7.97 = £30.72

    plus daily charges
    Bern :j
  • brians_daughter
    brians_daughter Posts: 2,148 Forumite
    RedBern wrote: »
    367 x 2.7p = £9.91
    3855 x 7.97 = £30.72

    plus daily charges

    Hi thanks for replying, but are you sure?? Only reason i ask is when i rang her supplier this afternoon i was told it isnt simple to calculate and she should await her bill...surely if it was just a case of multiplying units by costs plus daily charges they would tell me so??
    Historically (last year and year before) her bills have been £900 for all gas and elec so i cant see it being sub £40 plus daily rates? hope for her sake it is, but doubt it :)
  • paid4it
    paid4it Posts: 37 Forumite
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    edited 24 May 2010 at 8:11PM
    my grandmother is going away and will be away when her bill is due, she always pays the bill the day it arrives but as ashe will be away she wants to work out what she has used so far and pay that before she goes (told her to hang on but she wont)

    I cant get my head around how it all works, so hope someone can help

    she has m3 gas meter and has used 367 units, she pays 25.76p daily fixed rate and 2.7p a unit. last bill was 90 days ago so thats £23.19 in daily charges - but whats the cost of her gas usage?

    For electric she has used 3855 units (yes 3855 according to her last bill, estimated) she pays a daily rate of 15.89p and 7.97p a unit for electric. Its been 90 days since her last bill so thats £14.30 but what is her elec useage bill?

    sorry to sound thick and thanks in advance, i really dont get it my oh deals with our energy..

    Anna

    £307.24 for elec+ daily charge£23.19
    £9.91 for gas + daily charge£14.30
    total =£354.64
    if all your numbers are correct it is just a case of multiplication
    Everyday the sunshine’s is a good day
  • brians_daughter
    brians_daughter Posts: 2,148 Forumite
    oh ok thank you.

    The readings were taken from the meter and we simply subtracted the meter read from her last bill and that left us with 367 gas and 3855 for elec.

    When i called the supplier for her they were saying about having to use calorific content and volume correction values in order to get the costs....and it wasnt a simple matter of multiplying, but it seems it is!

    hence why i asked :) seems its very easy to work out after all

    cheers
  • paid4it
    paid4it Posts: 37 Forumite
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    oh ok thank you.

    The readings were taken from the meter and we simply subtracted the meter read from her last bill and that left us with 367 gas and 3855 for elec.

    When i called the supplier for her they were saying about having to use calorific content and volume correction values in order to get the costs....and it wasnt a simple matter of multiplying, but it seems it is!

    hence why i asked :) seems its very easy to work out after all

    cheers
    well i'd have to admit that 2.7 pence per unit for gas seems like a great price but thats the figures you posted, some gas meters do need to be converted however, and £9 odds is not a lot of gas to use for 90 days wish my lot were as frugal
    Everyday the sunshine’s is a good day
  • brians_daughter
    brians_daughter Posts: 2,148 Forumite
    Sorry, i have just re-read my post and she pays 2.7 per KWH not per unit... i think this maybe where i am getting mixed up here? she has used 367 units according to her m3 meter. as i say her bills are usually 900 for both so i am getting this wrong somewhere

    same goes for the elec, its per KWH

    If she would just give the bloody supplier the readings and wait the bill it would be easy, but she says she wont sleep knowing she owes the energy supplier money!

    I am no use to her as i deal with everything but gas and elec in my home
  • molerat
    molerat Posts: 34,822 Forumite
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    edited 24 May 2010 at 9:03PM
    Gas :367 X 1.02264 X 40(ish) / 3.6 = 4170 kWh X 2.7p = £112.59 + daily charges. Easy way for gas reading conversion is to multiply the meter read by about 11.3 to get rough kWh. The calorific value (the 40(ish) figure) varies so will not be an exact figure.
    Electric is very high, that is my annual usage, are you sure the readings are correct.

    So from your figures
    gas = 112.59 + 14.30 = 126.89
    elect = 307.24 + 23.19 = 330.43 = £457.32 total :eek:
  • stewie_griffin
    stewie_griffin Posts: 1,099 Forumite
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    You need to convert her usage from m3 to kWh. An approximate way to do this is to multiply by 11.3. I'm sure someone will post the exact calculations for you soon
  • brians_daughter
    brians_daughter Posts: 2,148 Forumite
    yes, her electric reading is 100% correct. She houses an animal shelter for a charity that is using soley electricity in the winter months - so she is expecting around £500 elec bill.
  • molerat
    molerat Posts: 34,822 Forumite
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    yes, her electric reading is 100% correct. She houses an animal shelter for a charity that is using soley electricity in the winter months - so she is expecting around £500 elec bill.
    That explains a lot then :)
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