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possible deposit argument coming up?

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  • BitterAndTwisted
    BitterAndTwisted Posts: 22,492 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    GordonFreeman has just posted this very same query on the LandlordZone forum:

    http://www.landlordzone.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=28717



    I'll be most interested to read what their experts have to advise on this one.
  • clutton_2
    clutton_2 Posts: 11,149 Forumite
    edited 26 May 2010 at 4:11PM
    "If I see pictures and it's stained then £50 for cleaning seems fine but I don;t think £50 contribution to get a new carpet is the same...not legally anyway. ""

    do stop splitting hairs.. admit you messed up and pay the £50...... its not rocket science..


    Clearly Gordon you just need to be "right"


    as a LL if I wish to put the £50 towards a new carpet that you have stained, surely that is my prerogative as i am not charging you for a new carpet......
  • qwertyjjj
    qwertyjjj Posts: 150 Forumite
    GordonFreeman has just posted this very same query on the LandlordZone forum:

    http://www.landlordzone.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=28717



    I'll be most interested to read what their experts have to advise on this one.

    An example:
    [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Example: [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]A tenant renting a property and the inventory from the Check in inspection notes that the carpet in the living room had not been freshly cleaned and had a few spot marks. At the end of the tenancy, the Check out report notes the carpet as soiled. In this scenario the landlord should not be entitled to full compensation for the carpet cleaning costs. A fair solution would be for the tenant to pay a percentage of the cleaning costs which would be calculated by a professional Inventory Clerk[/FONT]

    http://www.jml-property-insurance.co.uk/Inventories_in_the_uk.htm
    [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]It is important to realise that the Law does not allow for betterment. This means that a landlord can not expect to have old replaced with new at a tenant's expense. A Fair Wear and Tear allowance must be considered. A tenant has a duty of care to return the property at the end of a tenancy in the same condition, Fair Wear and Tear excepted, as that recorded on the Inventory at the start of their tenancy. [/FONT]
    [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Decorations have an accepted life expectancy. However, there may be circumstances where excessive wear and tear require a tenant to pay compensation or charges to make good, e.g. numerous nail or picture pin holes, torn wallpaper, gouges in walls/woodwork etc. Charges for cleaning, making good etc are often apportioned to account for Fair Wear and Tear. [/FONT]
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  • qwertyjjj
    qwertyjjj Posts: 150 Forumite
    edited 26 May 2010 at 5:25PM
    clutton wrote: »
    "If I see pictures and it's stained then £50 for cleaning seems fine but I don;t think £50 contribution to get a new carpet is the same...not legally anyway. ""

    do stop splitting hairs.. admit you messed up and pay the £50...... its not rocket science..


    Clearly Gordon you just need to be "right"


    as a LL if I wish to put the £50 towards a new carpet that you have stained, surely that is my prerogative as i am not charging you for a new carpet......

    Not really clutton but everyone, in typical English style, just pays up without seeing evidence.
    I think I'm entitled to see some proof and some receipts.
    You can't blame me for defending against the posts that say pay up and don't ask any questions?
    5 year old carpets/rugs don't keep their value...
    As your prerogative in this example, which receipt is going to be provided? The one for the new carpet or the one for the cleaning? If the new carpet, then the old carpet needs to be valued for wear and tear and age.
  • silvercar
    silvercar Posts: 50,683 Ambassador
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    It sounds like your cleaning efforts may have bleached the carpet as you say that patch is lighter than the rest. If so, I would pay the £50 and be grateful it is not higher.
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  • Fire_Fox
    Fire_Fox Posts: 26,026 Forumite
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    qwertyjjj wrote: »
    Not really clutton but everyone, in typical English style, just pays up without seeing evidence.
    I think I'm entitled to see some proof and some receipts.
    You can't blame me for defending against the posts that say pay up and don't ask any questions?
    5 year old carpets/rugs don't keep their value...
    As your prerogative in this example, which receipt is going to be provided? The one for the new carpet or the one for the cleaning? If the new carpet, then the old carpet needs to be valued for wear and tear and age.

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  • clutton_2
    clutton_2 Posts: 11,149 Forumite
    ""then the old carpet needs to be valued for wear and tear and age."

    that is EXACTLY what the arbitration service will do... get a grip.....

    you have got off very lightly... stop acting like a whiney child.....
  • qwertyjjj
    qwertyjjj Posts: 150 Forumite
    edited 26 May 2010 at 9:40PM
    clutton wrote: »
    ""then the old carpet needs to be valued for wear and tear and age."

    that is EXACTLY what the arbitration service will do... get a grip.....

    you have got off very lightly... stop acting like a whiney child.....

    Ok, arbitration it is then. I let you know when I get my money back from the LL as the arbs will no doubt be on my side.
    The bias of this forum seems to be on the LL side despite me asking for what I should do to prove my point. Not one of you suggested to ask for receipts or anything. Goodbye.
  • clutton_2
    clutton_2 Posts: 11,149 Forumite
    what a thoroughly unpleasant poster..
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