Liquidation

Hypothetical_2

My company had an airtime contract with Orange which included two mobile phones (Blackberry Curve & Nokia E71). The company went into liquidation and no attempt was made to recover the handsets.

Is it possible to buy PAYG sim cards for the above? Although this sounds a little unsavoury, it does seem daft not to utilise two perfectly good phones.

Jon_01

Has anyone form the company told Orange that that they've gone into liquidation ?

What the state of the contract ? Has it finished it's minimum term ?

If there's outstanding payments Orange 'may' blacklist the handsets (I'm not sure how business CS work these things?).

Silk

Interesting thought !

If the phones were provided FOC which is usualy the case then I doubt they will be on the company's books as an asset.

In which case I don't see a problem using them and easy enough to get sim cards for etc.

However if the phones were purchased then they would show up as an asset and should have been returned to the liquidater or receiver etc etc.

DarkConvict

I agree, they either go back to orange to reduce the debt. Or as an asset on the books goto the liquidator to raise funds to pay off debts.

Hypothetical_2

Thanks for replying.

The phones were free as part of an airtime contract but the liquidators attitude is that they are encumbered assets of minimal value and he's not interested in them.

I'm going to give Orange more time to react but I would be interested to hear from others regarding good deals on payg sim cards for the phone models concerned in the event that we do indeed retain the handsets.

DarkConvict

Well check the T&Cs you should find in their the handsets are the businesses property, so orange may not want them back and if they do it must reduce the debt.

swilliam

Hypothetical wrote: »

the liquidators attitude is that they are encumbered assets of minimal value and he's not interested in them.

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That's norm for such items. If Orange asked for them back in order to minimise debt I would fall over backwards.

It would cost them ( on paper ) far more to collect then they will gain. Usually in these situations , assets such has these are usually ignored.


The liquidators will say would goes and what stays.

Hypothetical_2

Thanks again for your replies. I'll sit tight until the dust settles and if the handsets remain with me I'll be back to ask advice on best payg sims for a Blackberry Curve & Nokia E71. Cheers.

jimbms

This happened to me a few years back, we all rang orange and all they said was thanks for ringing as they was about to block the phones but we could keep the phone as they didn't want a second hand one, they offered a reduced contract if we wished to continue it, a free payg sim or a reasonable unlock fee for the phone. My advice is ring them otherwise there is a chance they will block the phone.

Hypothetical_2

Excellent advice. I will ring them forthwith.

Hypothetical_2

To make sure that any 'correspondence' was copied, I decided to email Orange rather than phone.

Didn't get a reply and they have now 'call barred' the phones.

Which is the best way to get this rectified?

TIA.