Are There ANY Areas Now Where Jobs Are Growing?

DCFC79

SmithyJoe wrote: »

I've heard that the 'trade' industry is expected to get much better in the near future, particularily in plumbing. There are a number of good value plumbing courses out there if you fancy it.

which courses would they be then

DCFC79

teabelly wrote: »

If you can't find a job then why not start your own business doing something else instead?

how can a joe bloggs with his own newly started business compete with the experienced firms, who would pay a non experienced guy to do a job when theres others out there who have experienced and would do a good job

teabelly

They were new once too....

dickydonkin

DCFC79 wrote: »

how can a joe bloggs with his own newly started business compete with the experienced firms, who would pay a non experienced guy to do a job when theres others out there who have experienced and would do a good job

Apparently - and this is only hearsay mind - I was recently talking to a heating engineer who told me the plumbing courses as described earlier are very very basic.

True, I accept that even he had to start somewhere, but as he is a 'more mature' tradesman, I suspect he cut his teeth through an apprenticeship (remember them?) and would have been supervised and doing menial tasks while learning the job.

Furthermore, I suspect that there are many experienced plumbers looking for regular work out there and I would imagine these would have a better chance of employment than the 'wet behind the ears' Greenhorn who has just received a piece of paper from a college stating s/he is a plumber.

It's a dificult jobs market right now and it would seem there is little chance of improvement in the short/medium term.

Weirdlittleman

Strider590 wrote: »

Agree'd

The same applies to graduate workplace virgins, who are thrown into management roles straight out of Uni.... They have an arrogance and disregard for employment law, unrivalled by practically anyone.



I watched a program last year, where two equally qualified accountants sent out CV's to some 30 employment agencies, one was male in his mid 50's and had tons of experience, the other was 20 female and had no experience whatsoever....
ALL the agencies contacted the young woman, NONE of them contacted the man.

Agencies are only interested in what they stereotypically think employers go for.... Young attractive women.... And most jobs now are advertised through agencies.
On this one point, the agencies are correct in assuming that being young and female is what employers want for non-physical (admin) jobs.

This was a fundamentally flawed as the market for newly qualified accountants is entirely different from a fully qualified accountant with years of experience and the approach to recruit said individuals would be very different.

Newly qualified etc for example would be looking at audit work or general practice whereas someone that experienced would be looking at senior positions like directors etc who are less likely to be recruited through the run of the mill agencies and so on.

Its also a myth to say agencies are the main source of employees as many companies are avoiding them and their fees and recruiting direct.

Obviously this doesnt mix with your sexist attitude though.

I would also add that it is almost impossible that a 20 year old female would be a fully qualified accountant anyway.

I think your TV programme was either made up or a scam towards the vulnerable minded like you.

custardy

dpassmore wrote: »

Apparently - and this is only hearsay mind - I was recently talking to a heating engineer who told me the plumbing courses as described earlier are very very basic.

True, I accept that even he had to start somewhere, but as he is a 'more mature' tradesman, I suspect he cut his teeth through an apprenticeship (remember them?) and would have been supervised and doing menial tasks while learning the job.

Furthermore, I suspect that there are many experienced plumbers looking for regular work out there and I would imagine these would have a better chance of employment than the 'wet behind the ears' Greenhorn who has just received a piece of paper from a college stating s/he is a plumber.

It's a dificult jobs market right now and it would seem there is little chance of improvement in the short/medium term.

I know one guy at my old office who is doing a plumbing course
he has been doing it for over a year and as far as i know is yet to do any practical work

Timalay

Cleaning is another good area to get into. There seems to be plenty of cleaning jobs at the moment.

I went from being told at my old place in early Febuary they weren't going renew my contract when it expired in May, to applying for my cleaning job in mid Febuary and starting it in late March.

prnapper

I think you're right. Agencies are interested in closing their deal.

I got a new job recently, by utilising linkedin - a sort of business facebook. Fill out your CV, find colleagues, former colleagues, former clients etc, and start looking for jobs on there. The market is growing slightly, I have found.

DCFC79

custardy wrote: »

I know one guy at my old office who is doing a plumbing course
he has been doing it for over a year and as far as i know is yet to do any practical work

is it a college course or 1 of them from firms like trade 4 skills, home learning etc, there was a story in the guardian at the weekend about them courses and you can only get the nvq by getting employment and you get assessed so you can pass

Mr_Falling_Star

Further to my earlier post there are a few more areas that are growing :-

Roadmending
Vocational training
Debt Collection and Credit control