Taking a self employed, commision only job whilst on jsa

foxyuk

Hi guys getting really fed up not working and have a chance of selling double glazing for someone i know that owns a company..

There are loads of these jobs about at end of day employer takes no risks

its self employed and is commission only....

how does that affect my benefits? as i will not know what earnings will be.

secondly as we all know these jobs are hit and miss what happens if it is a waste of time and i leave an i suspended from benefits?

karenx

If its a self employed job then you will have to register as self employed which in turn might stop your JSA

AnxiousMum

If it's self emplyed - then you register your self employment business.

If you're doing it on commission only as an employee, the employee usually has to guarantee that the job and the hours worked/commission paid, even out to equal at least minimum wage. Would your friend be willing to take you on in that capacity?

foxyuk

AnxiousMum wrote: »

If it's self emplyed - then you register your self employment business.

If you're doing it on commission only as an employee, the employee usually has to guarantee that the job and the hours worked/commission paid, even out to equal at least minimum wage. Would your friend be willing to take you on in that capacity?

he said i could either be empoyed or self employed however either way its commision only.....

only issue he said about being employed is you are taxed at source whereas self employed you can write off benefits including car, fuel, depreciation, mobile etc

AnxiousMum

You would also need to organise insurance - you'd need to be covered in the event of a faulty installation - as it would be you that the customer came after as their contract would be with you and not the company you had install them. In that event, you'd also need to ensure that your friend had appropriate insurance if you had to then claim from them! You should also look at insurance to cover you for loss of income if you were sick and unable to work due to that illness. Yes there are benefits of being self employed, but also alot of expenses in the start up!

foxyuk

AnxiousMum wrote: »

You would also need to organise insurance - you'd need to be covered in the event of a faulty installation - as it would be you that the customer came after as their contract would be with you and not the company you had install them. In that event, you'd also need to ensure that your friend had appropriate insurance if you had to then claim from them! You should also look at insurance to cover you for loss of income if you were sick and unable to work due to that illness. Yes there are benefits of being self employed, but also alot of expenses in the start up!

insurance in event of faulty installation???? why would i need that...? its a sales job assume you think its an installers job....

so what happens if you go self employed and it does not work ie commision poor is it easy to register again on jsa based on you left because not earning enough etc?

AnxiousMum

If you are self employed, you are selling a product via your own business. You are then passing that business onto a third party to install? If the buyer's contract is with you - that makes you the party they would come after if there was leaks etc. If you are an employee, then the contract between buyer and supplier would be with your employer - clearing you of any responsibility.

I can't help on the JSA front - never been on it. But did have a landscaping business with my ex husband.

property.advert

Be realistic and practical. You want to hear that you can sign on and give this a try and yes, that is what you will have to do or your benefits will get all screwed up and you'll probably lose money somewhere. Some will want to slap your bum for even suggesting such an illegal and outrageous thing but they are living in cloud cuckoo land.

The simple fact is that you either don't take the chance or sign on until you know it works as signing off will just cause problems. You should know in a few weeks so nothing lost if you give it a go. If you sign off and then stop, the little Hitlers at the JSA could even try to have you over for leaving a job and stop your money for 26 weeks ! You simply cannot risk that.

Voyager2002

property.advert wrote: »

Be realistic and practical. You want to hear that you can sign on and give this a try and yes, that is what you will have to do or your benefits will get all screwed up and you'll probably lose money somewhere. Some will want to slap your bum for even suggesting such an illegal and outrageous thing but they are living in cloud cuckoo land.

The simple fact is that you either don't take the chance or sign on until you know it works as signing off will just cause problems. You should know in a few weeks so nothing lost if you give it a go. If you sign off and then stop, the little Hitlers at the JSA could even try to have you over for leaving a job and stop your money for 26 weeks ! You simply cannot risk that.

If you sign off and then leave a job for which you have not been paid, even a DWP official will recognise that you had good reason for leaving. However, a self-employed person who seeks to claim JSA faces more hurdles. So from that point of view, trying the job on an employed basis might involve less risk.

What is quite certain is that if you begin this work while still signing on and not declaring it, you are breaking the law and could face prosecution. That, I suggest, is a risk that you cannot afford to take.

Any chance that you could work on a part-time basis, and declare your work and any earnings?