Camertoff's powers of judgement

abaxas

LizEstelle wrote: »

You thought it was perhaps questionable when he opted to retain Osborne instead of Ken Clarke as Shadow Chancellor, thus ruling out a couple of million extra votes?

You thought it craven and unstatesmanlike when he kept the gross weasel and proven liar Ashcroft on board his election team?

Well, you're now going to have to swallow:

1. A confuzzled and desperately motley gluing together of people who cannot stand the sight of each other, rather than the far more dignified and appropriate formation of a minority government.

2. The pompous and incompetent Osborne in charge at the treasury with Cable sidelined as a deputy sub-assistant in charge of nothing very much.

3. A 'Deputy Prime Minister' whose every word will be scrutinised for hanging material by the Tory grass roots.

4. The opportunity for Labour to regroup as being now the only centre-left voting opportunity on offer and looking to pounce on the inevitable future dissent as evidence of Con-Lib incompetence.

All in all, this is political misjudgement of the finest water.

I would say he's contrived to put together the ideal circumstances for another long term Labour government - and that probably before not too long....

Dont you just love it!

Gimme Gimme give me things I you have.

Grow up and take control of your life, dont expect others to pay for yout jolly.

speedbird1973

Liz,

If the partnerhship works (big if) - you'll never see another labour government in your lifetime. The difference between the tories and the lib dems will keep the party fresh, and the set in their ways labour party will remain like vermin in the gutter.

StevieJ

LizEstelle wrote: »

I would say he's contrived to put together the ideal circumstances for another long term Labour government - and that probably before not too long....

You could well be correct and I think the BOE governor agrees with you :eek:

Public anger over coming austerity cuts will be so severe that whoever wins the next election will be out of power for a generation, Bank of England governor Mervyn King has warned.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23829369-mervyn-king-said-that-public-anger-over-austerity-cuts-would-affect-british-politics-for-a-generation.do

PhylPho

What's good about grown-up politics is the way people don't desperately try to stigmatise those with whom they disagree by inventing schoolyard names for 'em. Referring to someone as 'Camertoff' is always going to say less about the name called than about the name-caller.;)

hallmark

LizEstelle wrote: »

More like terribly amused at the complete and utter failure to answer the point... or should I say blatantly studious avoidance..?

And we all know why. Camertoff has made a pig's ear of the choices available to him. Keep it up, Dopey Dave. The way you're going, Labour will get back in with another landslide.

Like it or not Cameron now governs you. So if he's Dopey what does that make you...?

Pete111

Hmmm.

Liz has not replied since just before 5pm.

Public sector 'non-jobber' perchance?

Wheezy_2

Pete111 wrote: »

Hmmm.

Liz has not replied since just before 5pm.

Public sector 'non-jobber' perchance?

And 15 posts from you between 10 and 5. What's your excuse? Day off?

baby_boomer

I find the phrase "Camertoff" amusing.

Each of the three main parties is led by an alumnus of one of the three most elitist schools in the country.

Conservatives - Eton
LibDem - Westminster
Labour - St. Paul's Girls'

I blame the demise of the Grammar Schools for this dreadful state of affairs.

But until Labour elect a new leader (how novel will that seem) & the last one they actually elected 16 years ago :eek: was also from one of Scotland's most elite public schools - , it's a case of people in glass houses..........

abaxas

Wheezy wrote: »

And 15 posts from you between 10 and 5. What's your excuse? Day off?

British Telecom call centre....:P

Primrose

I've no doubt that all voters would have preferred to see their own favoured party get an outright majority. That didn't happen.
If the current situation was that this country was fighting a war against a foreign power which had the potential to bring it to its knees, most sensible thoughtful voters would swallow their feelings and prefer that politicians combined to act together in the national interest.

Well, for those who haven't noticed, we ARE fighting a serious war which has the same potential to bring this country to its knees as we faced during the Second World War. It's called a national debt which is so huge it could bring us to bankruptcy if not dealt with quickly. One has only to look at what has been happening in Greece to get a hint of what could be in store for the UK without a strong government to act quickly. So perhaps we can all swallow our criticisms, reserve judgement and hope that these politicians have the goodwill and common sense to turn this country round from the current mess in which we all find ourselves.