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Flat Battery every Morning !!

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  • DGJsaver
    DGJsaver Posts: 2,777 Forumite
    Cheers all !
  • PHYTHIAN
    PHYTHIAN Posts: 339 Forumite
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    A couple of things that have happened to me

    1. Faulty alternator---- you would see a dashboard light remain on when you turn the engine off
    2. Battery leads/ terminals getting wet---spray liberally with WD40
    3. You say it has been each morning. Does it stay OK during the day after you have charged it or does it drain out after a couple of hours of being idle? If it takes a couple of hours then it is likely to be something OTHER than the battery. If you turn off the engine and it won't start straight away , then it is DEFINITELY the battery.

    Feel sure you may already know those things but thought I'd chuck my tuppenyworth in!!
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  • DGJsaver
    DGJsaver Posts: 2,777 Forumite
    edited 12 May 2010 at 12:21PM
    Hello mate

    Thing is when i jump it , its a gap of 2-3-hours till i use it again so i dont know if i let it sit there for 8 hours wethere it would start again or not as yet.....
    the battery itself is wrapped up in a posh sort of cover , and appears clean and dry...but it does say GM on it so wondering if its the same batterie from manufacture (surley not?!)

    All lights go out when i turn engine off...
  • colino
    colino Posts: 5,059 Forumite
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    You should have a discharge test done by a garage to rule it out (actually puts it under load not just checking the voltage) and disconnect the plug from the back of the alternator overnight. It's not unknown for an alternator that actually delivers charge to have faulty diodes capable of discharging the battery.
    Being a diesel however I think the checks will just confirm the battery is past its best!
  • molerat
    molerat Posts: 34,657 Forumite
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    colino wrote: »
    It's not unknown for an alternator that actually delivers charge to have faulty diodes capable of discharging the battery.
    That was the problem I had. Alternator was charging fine but as soon as it stopped the battery would discharge at 4 amps. The car either needs to be put on a diagnostic machine or simply disconnect the +ve terminal and connect an ammeter between the lead to the battery.
  • Our battery in a diesel went recently. Get a garage to test the cold cranking amps which is the juice required to get it started.
  • maninthestreet
    maninthestreet Posts: 16,127 Forumite
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    Strider590 wrote: »
    I don't care what the AA man says, I think it's the battery..... They measure the battery voltage, but there's an element they don't measure and that's the ability to supply massive starting current.
    QUOTE]

    If the AA man is worth his salt, he would be using a battery tester that puts a load on the battery.
    "You were only supposed to blow the bl**dy doors off!!"
  • DGJsaver
    DGJsaver Posts: 2,777 Forumite
    The AA bloke , said it was showing 12.5v and that a sidelight being on would only be 0.8v so battery fine...?!
  • cyclonebri1
    cyclonebri1 Posts: 12,827 Forumite
    10 to 1 new battery

    evens new alternator


    BUT any able shop will tell you which, :money:
    I like the thanks button, but ,please, an I agree button.

    Will the grammar and spelling police respect I do make grammatical errors, and have carp spelling, no need to remind me.;)

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  • maninthestreet
    maninthestreet Posts: 16,127 Forumite
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    DGJsaver wrote: »
    The AA bloke , said it was showing 12.5v and that a sidelight being on would only be 0.8v so battery fine...?!

    12.5V isnt good - it should be 13.2V (110% of the nominal voltage) to be able to supply the current required to turn the engine over.
    I sidelight will use 12V, just like evevry other light on the car. Maybe he meant 0.8A (amps, i.e current), but most sidelights are 5W, which would mean a current draw of 0.42A.
    "You were only supposed to blow the bl**dy doors off!!"
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