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Cut Scotland loose – then we’ll have a fair voting system - The Times

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  • Shakethedisease
    Shakethedisease Posts: 7,006 Forumite
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    You want to 'cut Scotland loose' so you can gain a perpetual, never ending Tory government ?

    Good luck with THAT !
    It all seems so stupid it makes me want to give up.
    But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid ?
  • diable
    diable Posts: 5,258 Forumite
    Does it really matter is anyone gong to see an improvement?
  • Degenerate
    Degenerate Posts: 2,166 Forumite
    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    In 1997 Blair swept to power with a 190 seat majority with 1% less of the popular vote than the Tories polled last week.

    Er, no he didn't.
  • apt
    apt Posts: 3,247 Forumite
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    The Tories are also unpopular in large parts of England. They had less than 40% of the vote in England and their vote went up less in England than in Wales.
  • Nosht
    Nosht Posts: 744 Forumite
    Bonia77 wrote: »
    I come from a country where we have proportional voting and it sucks!


    You think that you vote for your well-known local person, but you votes goes to the ba**ard at the top of party's list!!!!!


    Thanks to your voting system you really vote for your representative in the Parliament, not some party buff.

    We already have this in Scotland & it stinks. A complete nonentity can be allocated to parliament just because they are top of the party's list.

    Basically there are too many MPs & levels of government in the in U.K..
    In Scotland we pay for 4 different types of rule:
    1. Local Councils
    2. Scottish Parliament
    3. Westminster Parliament
    4. E.C. Dictatorship.

    Give us our freedom again & we will not sell it this time. :eek:


    Regards,


    N. ;)
    Never be afraid to take a profit. ;)
    Keep breathing. :eek:
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  • scots all hate tories because of thatcher
    nothing like living in the past, and not thinking about the future....

    its petty and pathetic!
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  • bioboybill
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    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    In 1997 Blair swept to power with a 190 seat majority with 1% less of the popular vote than the Tories polled last week.

    So the PR issue is double edged.
    WRONG! Blair got 43.2%, whereas the Tories got 36% this time, but don't let the facts get in the way of your argument.

    By the way, it does make me laugh when I hear all these Tories suddenly wanting to ditch something that I thought was a bedrock of the Conservative doctrine (the union of Great Britain) just because the Scots refuse to vote for the Conservative party.:D
  • Sir_Humphrey
    Sir_Humphrey Posts: 1,978 Forumite
    So someone is suggesting destroying Britain to give the Tories power. And they say the Lib Dems are unprincipled!

    Nuts!
    Politics is not the art of the possible. It consists of choosing between the disastrous and the unpalatable. J. K. Galbraith
  • Really2
    Really2 Posts: 12,397 Forumite
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    So someone is suggesting destroying Britain to keep the Tories in power. And they say the Lib Dems are unprincipled!

    Nuts!

    So you think the scots voting on england is fair but england can't vote on Scotland?

    They have already cut loose, just that some idiots still let them vote on our afairs and government.
  • kennyboy66_2
    kennyboy66_2 Posts: 2,598 Forumite
    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    In 1997 Blair swept to power with a 190 seat majority with 1% less of the popular vote than the Tories polled last week.

    So the PR issue is double edged.

    Laughable.

    Don't believe the Tory spin / outright lies.

    Blair got 43% of the vote in 1997
    13.5 million votes.

    This was 2.9 million more than the Tories got this time (and 7% points more).

    It was also roughly the same as Thatcher got in 1979 and more than she got in 1983 (which was a Tory landslide).
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