Kleeneeze or Betterware?

bandos2007

lincroft1710 wrote: »

So less than £5 an hour, which is what I suggested in the first place and you can't accuse me of twisting the figures.

Yes I believe that is less than £5 per hour, however because of the nature of the business no one can predict how many orders and what value you are likely to collect from 200 cats in a week. So this figure is an average, and where you have an average you also have lower and higher figures. Some new starters have achieved a first four week income of £1000, whilst some have earned less than £200.
At the end of the day whatever figure someone earns and is happy with is relevant to their own circumstances, you cannot dispute that.

Honest_John_666

Cant make my mind up about this person, lots of things dont add up. Either a simpleton or a WUM nothing wrong with either BTW

If you read over every post we've had some good people on here sharing their views, experiences opinions etc. & sometimes you have to read between the lines on some comments especially from Kleeneze people. Its a shame that we cant all be honest & upfront BUT lets face it theres a lot of that in the UK today.

Some of the views/banter I've personally had on here I will tell all who are viewing has got me in trouble so I will have to be very careful on what I say as I do have some very good contacts in both companies & yes Bandos I have contact with Gavin Scott. Nice bloke BTW even though he called me a !!!! which I still beleive.... he spelt wrong.

Some of my comments on this thread have been passed on from here to the MD of Kleeneze who then called the MD of Betterware complaining about me. Thats what a pathetic company they are. The reason was I mentioned the DSA & guess who used to Chairman of the DSA.....The MD of Kleeneze!!!

Bandos..........Come out & tell the facts NO rubbish stop going round in circles & TBH your making yourself look very stupid which @ your age you shouldn't really be doing.

If your earning £50 £500 £5000 £5M per week then good luck to you.

BUT c'mon Bandos 2007 answer some of these questions these people are asking you on an open forum. If you are unable to answer please go back to your upline & get them on here??? If they cant answer go & tell tales to the MD of Kleeneze because that horrible Honest John..... the seeker of truth & justice IS BACK!!!

If thats don stir up some of the other Kleeneze I dont know what will

Regards
John

bandos2007

lincroft1710 wrote: »

I have never questioned your honesty. Just your inability to give a direct answer to a question which suggests things may not be as rosy as you would have us believe.

Oh, and they're not my "cohorts". and I don't twist your information.

and I don't twist your information.

You did because you assumed that if I worked a 30 hour week I would earn £33k per year, the £25 an hour figure is relevant to the hours I work, simply putting in more hours will not guarantee that I will achieve £25 an hour for the extra hours.

bandos2007

If you read over every post we've had some good people on here sharing their views, experiences opinions etc. & sometimes you have to read between the lines on some comments especially from Kleeneze people.

And it also appears that whatever contribution any Kleeneze distributor has made on this thread, either you or someone else with an axe to grind has twisted the figures/comments to suit your/their own needs. Why do you seem unable to accept the posts at face value.

lincroft1710

bandos2007 wrote: »

You did because you assumed that if I worked a 30 hour week I would earn £33k per year, the £25 an hour figure is relevant to the hours I work, simply putting in more hours will not guarantee that I will achieve £25 an hour for the extra hours.

That is not "twisting information", it is actually making a logical assumption based on information you provided. You are now saying that if you worked more hours your hourly rate would drop below £25.

snuggle69

I have done Kleeneze and those adverts are all a load of tosh!!

You cannot earn what they say on ground level it takes a hell of a lot of work, money and luck!

Its fine if you want to earn a few extra quid going round delivery catalogues, but you do lose a lot and do have to buy them.

bandos2007

lincroft1710 wrote: »

That is not "twisting information", it is actually making a logical assumption based on information you provided. You are now saying that if you worked more hours your hourly rate would drop below £25.

Again you are twisting the information, I did not say that my hourly rate would drop, you did. What I said is that simply putting in more hours will not guarantee that I will achieve £25 an hour for the extra hours.

lincroft1710

bandos2007 wrote: »

Again you are twisting the information, I did not say that my hourly rate would drop, you did. What I said is that simply putting in more hours will not guarantee that I will achieve £25 an hour for the extra hours.

Therefore your hourly rate will drop if you put in the extra hours. If you work for 2 hours and achieve £25 ph and then work a further 2 hours and only achieve £24 ph, then your hourly rate drops to £24.50. So clearly there would be a maximum number of hours where £25 ph is achieved.

Honest_John_666

bandos2007 wrote: »

And it also appears that whatever contribution any Kleeneze distributor has made on this thread, either you or someone else with an axe to grind has twisted the figures/comments to suit your/their own needs. Why do you seem unable to accept the posts at face value.

Does that warrant answer :huh: :think: :whistle:

Please send all replies to:- I'msooooofedupwithallthecarpthatmostkleenezepeoplecomeoutwith.com

:rotfl:

Regards
John

Honest_John_666

snuggle69 wrote: »

I have done Kleeneze and those adverts are all a load of tosh!!

You cannot earn what they say on ground level it takes a hell of a lot of work, money and luck!

Its fine if you want to earn a few extra quid going round delivery catalogues, but you do lose a lot and do have to buy them.

Is it 50p a book :eek: & if you do an area where there is already a person working you might be lucky & just lose your books. You might be unlucky & get physically abused :mad:

Regards
John