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Kleeneeze or Betterware?

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  • I think this must be the worst one we've had so far

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    I'll refain from commenting anymore as bandos2007 gets my vote for the biggest wind up on this thread

    Regards
    John
    The Seeker of Truth & Justice for all
  • bandos2007
    bandos2007 Posts: 105 Forumite
    I think this must be the worst one we've had so far

    *** CULT ALERT ***

    I'll refain from commenting anymore as bandos2007 gets my vote for the biggest wind up on this thread

    Regards
    John
    I think this must be the worst one we've had so far
    so you take great pleasure in knocking down what is just an honest opinion do you?
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    That just about describes you and the other no marks who post on this forum
    I'll refain from commenting anymore as bandos2007 gets my vote for the biggest wind up on this thread
    Out of your depth are you!!

    Fact: Anyone can make a profit with Kleeneze if they are prepared to do the work, this cannot be disputed.
  • bandos2007 wrote: »
    Fact: Anyone can make a profit with Kleeneze if they are prepared to do the work, this cannot be disputed.

    But it has been disputed a number of times in this thread in the past.

    You havent produced any figures to support it.
  • wongawonga
    wongawonga Posts: 387 Forumite
    But it has been disputed a number of times in this thread in the past.

    You havent produced any figures to support it.

    And he cant produce any figures ,his statements are full of holes,as you might have gathered his out of his depth he hasnt got a clue even how to conduct a proper dialogue.

    I am beginning to suspect he is a WUM !
  • bandos2007
    bandos2007 Posts: 105 Forumite
    But it has been disputed a number of times in this thread in the past.

    You havent produced any figures to support it.
    I refer you to my original post on this thread:
    We have been Kleeneze distributors for almost 5 years, and at the end of the day if you are prepared to do what is required you will make an income. How much income you will make is dependent on the work you are prepared to put in. If you want an extra £50 per week you can achieve this in your spare time as long as you follow the advice of your sponsor. If you want a much bigger income eg £500 per week then you are going to have to put in a lot more work. Is it achievable? absolutely yes, we know because we have done it ourselves.

    You cannot dispute this because you do not know me, it is fact, we have made an income of £50 in a week, and we have also had an income of £500 in a week, we have earned an income in every week since we joined the business. Besides do you think we would still be running our business after almost 5 years if we weren't making any money?

    Gentlemen I came across this thread by chance and decided to post some facts about our experience with Kleeneze so that anyone considering whether to start a Kleeneze business or a Betterware business who needs some advice as asked by the original poster would have an honest opinion that may help them to decide. I did not come here to engage in a slanging match, defend or promote Kleeneze, or to knock Betterware. As an ex salesman of some 30 years I appreciate that one of the first laws of salemanship is never knock your competition. Thus you will note if you read my posts that I have not commented on Betterware because I have no experience of that company. Therefore I take at face value comments about Betterware on this thread and so should other readers.
  • missterryshopper
    missterryshopper Posts: 135 Forumite
    edited 22 June 2011 at 10:26AM
    bandos2007 wrote: »
    You cannot dispute this

    All i said was it has been disputed in the past. I wasnt commenting about your particular figures.

    When i said disputed in the past i was referring to a number posts where people have shown that you can make little or no income from kleeneze after taking into consideration expenses,wastage,monthly fees etc.

    When asked about specific figures or how growth was achieved you wriggle out of answering the questions.
  • bandos2007
    bandos2007 Posts: 105 Forumite
    When asked about specific figures or how growth was achieved you wriggle out of answering the questions.

    Sorry no wriggling, the post that asked how I achieved 75% growth was quite flippant in asking whether I had to do more work or expand my territory, so I answered with a similar flippant comment. Of course I had to put in extra work and I achieved the result I wanted.
  • wongawonga
    wongawonga Posts: 387 Forumite
    bandos2007 wrote: »
    Sorry no wriggling, the post that asked how I achieved 75% growth was quite flippant in asking whether I had to do more work or expand my territory, so I answered with a similar flippant comment. Of course I had to put in extra work and I achieved the result I wanted.

    It was a serious question i posed. You could have after all achieved the growth from existing customers ordering more.

    Another serious question for you.

    If business is booming why are sales and distributor numbers dropping ? Why are there less principal distributors ?
  • bandos2007
    bandos2007 Posts: 105 Forumite
    When i said disputed in the past i was referring to a number posts where people have shown that you can make little or no income from kleeneze after taking into consideration expenses,wastage,monthly fees etc.

    Undoubtedly there are posts on this thread from people who said that they did not make much of an income, the counter balance is my situation which shows that an income can be made from the business. In any case what is an income for some eg £50 per week may not be enough for someone else, each person has their own income requirement, and if you can earn what you need to from the business whether it be £50 per week or £500 per week surely that is all that matters.
  • bandos2007
    bandos2007 Posts: 105 Forumite
    It was a serious question i posed. You could have after all achieved the growth from existing customers ordering more.
    Of course.
    If business is booming why are sales and distributor numbers dropping ? Why are there less principal distributors ?

    To be frank I take little interest in whether the overall business is booming, whether distributor numbers are increasing or decreasing, or how many principals there are, I am only interested in the income I can make in my spare time, and if it satisfies my needs then so be it.
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