Kleeneeze or Betterware?

Honest_John_666

bandos2007 wrote: »

As a newbie to this forum I do not take kindly to your patronizing aggressive tone. For your information my upline is one of only a few Premier Distributors in Kleeneze.

Appologies if you've found my reply agressive I'm sooooooo sorry.

I think we've had so many BS'ers on this thread from Kleeneze & when this thread keeps on popping its ugly heads up we never really get any truth

So lets see how long you last

What is a premier distributor???

Is Gavin Scott waht you call a premier distributor???

Regards
John

lincroft1710

bandos2007 wrote: »

It is immaterial how much I earn per hour, whether it be £5, £15, or £50, what is important is that it works for me, I earn enough to supplement my part time income to keep the wolf from the door, and enjoy a reasonable standard of living, now you can't argue with that.

So you're probably not even making £5 per hour, otherwise you would have delighted in telling us how much you make, given you claim that Kleeneze is soooo good.

Honest_John_666

billsavings wrote: »

Some interesting recent comments about the sales figures here http://www.squidoo.com/why-kleeneze-can-make-you-cry

:beer: Spot on again Billsavings, thanks for the link

Hadn't read this site for along time & I like the piece about trading standards.

How they are allowed to operate is beyond me!!!

How some of them can sleep at night is again realy beyond me

Yes I know there is quite a few good people out there & good luck to you

After my own dealings with Kleeneze I vowed to make sure every time I come across a person invovled with them I would challenge them to all the comeents & BS that 99% of them come out with

I have regular contact with Gavin Scott & he cant answer my more probing questions.....says its all doesn't it

Regards
John

Honest_John_666

bandos2007 wrote: »

If you are or have been a Kleeneze distributor then you are "qualified" to comment, if not then I kindly ask that you check your facts before making derogatory statements. Besides if you wanted financial advice you would talk to a financial adviser and not a butcher or baker etc.

The Kleeneze figure are in the public domain whether & in an earlier reply.

Whether you are qualified or not you are allowed to have an opinion & that waht this forum is about opinions

The title of this thread is what we are on about & it seemd 95% in favour of Betterware being a far better & more ethical company than Kleeneze...........IMO :rotfl:

I kindly ask you to ask your own baker as they probably know more about the company than you

Regards
John

Honest_John_666

niftyone wrote: »

Is it correct there numbers are recedeing due to falling sales figures ?

Its very difficult to work out what is going on as no one gives you a straight answer

From Findels report everything has come backwards yet again

From my ear on the ground its about 25% down on last year

Regards
John

Honest_John_666

bandos2007 wrote: »

Yes, some interesting comments. If you need the extra income then the opportunity is there to earn it with Kleeneze, we have been in for almost 5 years, we don't earn mega bucks, but we do make a nice profit without which we could not survive, so tell me what is wrong with that?

Good luck to you & if you've been there 5 years someone up above will look after you.

I always thought it was 5 year plan & you'd be financial free???

Can I ask what would you call a nice profit???

Some people need an extra £50 per week

Some people need an extra £100 per week

Some people need more

Some people get sucked into the cult

Where do you fit in then???

Thanks in advance of any answers

Regards
John

jhp

Just seen one of there distributors ads which suggests you can earn 2000 a month.

Do they have any control over them . many ads breach the DSA rules.

At all times:
(a) members and direct sellers shall only promote the opportunity as a business relationship with the member;
(b) no unrepresentative or exaggerated earnings claims shall be made;
(c) any earnings claims must relate to actual earnings from the
opportunity by an identifiable person and be capable of verification;
(d) income claims should not imply that earnings are quickly or easily achieved.


http://www.dsa.org.uk/uploads/content/business-code-plain.-dec-20101.pdf

geordie_joe

bandos2007 wrote: »

If you are or have been a Kleeneze distributor then you are "qualified" to comment,

Comments like that really pee me off. Common sense, past experience, wisdom, knowledge and a host of other things can "qualify" someone to comment. Not that anyone needs to be "qualified", it's a free country, they have the right to comment.

But the Kleeneze mantra is "if you haven't tried it you can't comment".

Well I'll tell you......I haven't stuck the barrel of a loaded gun in my mouth and pulled the trigger, but my comments on what would happen if I did would be just as valid as anyone else's.

bandos2007 wrote: »

if not then I kindly ask that you check your facts before making derogatory statements.

Does that mean that if you have not tried Kleeneze, but have checked your facts, you ARE "qualified" to comment?

Do those who have tried kleeneze have to check their facts before commenting too, or is it just those who have not tried it?

bandos2007 wrote: »

Besides if you wanted financial advice you would talk to a financial adviser and not a butcher or baker etc.

Not necessarily, there are many financial advisor's who give bad advice, or the advice that earns them the most money instead of the advice that is best for you.

On the other hand, if my butcher got good financial advice, from anywhere, and wanted to share it with me I would talk, and listen to him. I wouldn't act on it until I had checked it out for myself, but I would talk and listen.

It would be no worse than listening to a complete stranger on the internet telling me he/she make a good profit from Kleeneze.

bandos2007

wongawonga wrote: »

The facts about the decline in the business are reported in the accounts of the holding company.I dont need to have any connection with the company to see that. I ask again what does your upline have to say about that . Does he tell his team business is booming,or is he/she upfront about the decline .

I have just achieved a 75% increase in sales over the last four weeks, so I don't need to ask anyone if business is booming because I know that it is, end of.

bandos2007

billsavings wrote: »

If its that good how come 9 out of 10 of people who sign up drop out very soon, most without placing any orders.

And where did that statistic emerge from ?