i want to go green! but OH says just go with the cheapest.

Wkdwill

To me going green means reducing your usage rather than who your supplier is and which tariff your on.

Plus, reducing your usage means you pay less anyway.

Pincher

chris1973 wrote: »

Oh Pleeeeassse. Just tune into sanity FM...

If people stopped having Children then where is the next generation of tax payers going to come from?. Is swampy going to bring them from cloud cuckoo land on his bike?

I thought it was a stork?

I was just remarking on the pay a nominal sum to avoid actually doing something about it culture. Barclays and Natwest would much rather pay £100 compensation to customers when they make an admin error than hire and train decent staff. The Americans would much rather pay a carbon credit charge than simply not drive SUVs.

The pay somebody else not to have babies idea is just trying to point out the absurdity of carbon credit schemes.

Nature has population control well in hand: Disease, natural disasters, food, water and finally air. When shortages appear, people will kill each other for free, no need for my £30.

Premier_2

jmd4eva wrote: »

i do feel quite strongly about the environment and doing our bit... how can I convince him it won't add too much to the bill? I want to go with OVO on the 100% green plan, and at the minute we are on southern electric standard online e7 ?

You've probably come to the wrong site if you want to pay more than you otherwise need. This site is about saving money.

So let's see how we can try and meet both wants

How about going with the cheapest supplier and donating the difference to whatever 'save the planet' charity you prefer? That way, you won't be paying 5% VAT on the donation, and what's more if you donate using gift aid, the charity will be able to reclaim the basic rate tax paid on that donation, meaning even more money for them

Pincher

Or give it to me. I am gradually putting in:

rain water butt, connecting (pump) to loft cistern for flushing toilets.

For your money, I will send pictures of the pipes, and each of the toilets will write to you for Christmas telling you the worthwhile ecological life they now live, thanks to your generous donation.
As we renovate across the house, more and more toilets will be hooked up.

Plushchris

Pincher wrote: »

As we renovate across the house, more and more toilets will be hooked up.

Are you renovating a house or a toilet showroom?

How many toilets do you need?

Freddie_Snowbits

Plushchris wrote: »

The energy that is taken out of the grid by people on these green tariffs is replaced by electricity from renewable resources. So the energy you are using is still the same but its being replaced by green energy.


Wether you believe the energy companies actually do that or not is a different matter..

and on the Coldest day of the year when Windy Miller's Turbine is not turning, do they sit with the lights off?

GREENWASH

NigeWick

jmd4eva wrote: »

i do feel quite strongly about the environment and doing our bit... how can I convince him it won't add too much to the bill?

As of April 1st, the government have backed a plan for "Feed in Tariffs." If you have a south facing roof and the cash or can afford the payments then a solar PV system can turn a profit over the decades. I am borrowing the money and having a system fitted. It will take 12 years(ish) to pay for itself including interest. Then there will be about 13 years profit as the deal is over 25 years. The only downside is that "the country" will be paying for it in taxes.

Mcfi5dhc

NigeWick wrote: »

The only downside is that "the country" will be paying for it in taxes.

Everything else you wrote was correct, but this part is incorrect

The govt made the power companies adopt the FIT and the money paid to me, and you, and the other renewable owners comes from the power companies directly and not through taxes.

Yes though, people will end up paying very slightly higher electric bills if they don't go this route. Most electric used in UK is used by industry, so they'll end up paying for most of the cost, indirectly obviously everyone will pay for this (including solar owners)

Interestingly, the income is tax free - for now...

Plushchris

Freddie_Snowbits wrote: »

and on the Coldest day of the year when Windy Miller's Turbine is not turning, do they sit with the lights off?

GREENWASH

No, I would imagine they would use the green electricity from other resources instead.

Wind turbines arent the only source of green electricity or didnt you realise that?

Anyway, you obviously didnt read my post properly, the electricity will stay on, people on green tariffs arent wired to the nearest wind turbine.