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HMRC & Cigarettes

Does anyone have an email contact address for HMRC. I have looked all over their site for one.

We quite often go to Spain & are very near to Gibraltar. They are outside of the usual rules for the 3200 ciggies.

We cross into Spain with out legitimate amount of 200 each time.

We have many conflicting answers & are therefore looking for a definitive from HMRC.

If we bring them into Spain & then into the UK does the 3200 rule applies.

Many Thanks
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  • Poppytime
    Poppytime Posts: 8,353 Forumite
    Am pretty sure you are only allowed the 200
    I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints - the sinners are much more fun ;)

  • stclair
    stclair Posts: 6,856 Forumite
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  • blue_haddock
    blue_haddock Posts: 12,110 Forumite
    you can bring 200 into the uk from gibraltar - i remember the resident customs officer on here confirming that even if you make several trips to gibraltar and bring 200 a time into spain you can only bring back 200 from gibraltar.
  • ManAtHome
    ManAtHome Posts: 8,512 Forumite
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    The 200 Gib to Spain is a 'per trip' allowance, same as bringing them into the UK either directly from Gib or via Spain. Nothing to stop you making multiple trips Gib to UK, but you can't build up a stash in Spain then import to UK in one go.

    The '3200 rule' (which is really 'as much as like if they're for your own use' rule) only applies to cigarettes on which EU tax/duty has been paid (HMRC site lists qualifying EU countries).
  • FH_Brit
    FH_Brit Posts: 1,223 Forumite
    Poppytime wrote: »
    Am pretty sure you are only allowed the 200

    This (200) is for DUTY FREE - if duty paid in the country you visited in it is different
    C. (Ex-Pat Brit)

    Travel Insurance Claim Manager
    Travel Claims Specialist
  • dzug1
    dzug1 Posts: 13,535 Forumite
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    FH_Brit wrote: »
    This (200) is for DUTY FREE - if duty paid in the country you visited in it is different

    Not quite. If you bought duty paid in Australia for example you could still only bring 200

    They have to be bought duty paid in the EU to get the higher allowance.

    And there are some exceptions as to what makes up the EU
  • FH_Brit
    FH_Brit Posts: 1,223 Forumite
    edited 5 May 2010 at 12:48PM
    dzug1 wrote: »
    Not quite. If you bought duty paid in Australia for example you could still only bring 200

    They have to be bought duty paid in the EU to get the higher allowance.

    And there are some exceptions as to what makes up the EU

    The question was about Europe and I answered about Europe - what's Australia got to do about it - do you expect me to answer for every different country's regulations - or just the one that wass asked about.

    "They have to be bought duty paid in the EU to get the higher allowance" Did they move Spain & Gibraltar?

    Oh, and the 3200 is (technically) not true it is actually UNLIMITED (as long as they are for personal use or gifts (and no money must change hands)

    See this from the HMCR website....http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsPortalWebApp/channelsPortalWebApp.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=pageLibrary_ShowContent&id=HMCE_CL_001734&propertyType=document


    We are more likely to ask you questions if you
    have more than:
    3,200 cigarettes
    200 cigars
    400 cigarillos
    3kg tobacco
    110 litres of beer
    90 litres of wine
    10 litres of spirits
    20 litres of fortified wine (for example,
    port or sherry).
    Please note that the country where you buy tobacco
    may have its own laws on how much tobacco you can
    buy or keep. If you are not sure, please check with
    that country’s authorities before you buy.
    C. (Ex-Pat Brit)

    Travel Insurance Claim Manager
    Travel Claims Specialist
  • Littlemadam83
    Littlemadam83 Posts: 785 Forumite
    Sorry to jump in and ask this, so if we flew to Spain, we are allowed to fill our suitcases with cigarettes? Am just asking as I always thought the limit on planes was 200. Please let me be wrong ha ha x
  • FH_Brit
    FH_Brit Posts: 1,223 Forumite
    On plains = DUTY FREE = no tax whatso ever.
    Buy in Spain, you will pay Spanish taxes/duty = unlimited.
    C. (Ex-Pat Brit)

    Travel Insurance Claim Manager
    Travel Claims Specialist
  • alanrowell
    alanrowell Posts: 5,392 Forumite
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    Goods imported from the EU have to be for personal use only. If you turn up with a suitcase full of ciggies then UK customs will become VERY interested in you.

    The 200 limit applies to DUTY FREE - ie bought after security or on a flight FROM OUTSIDE THE EU. You do not get any duty free allowance for flights within the EU
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