The jobless are no shirking scroungers – you try living on £65.45 a week

carolt

It dependswhat the business is.

Obviously, if you start a business breeding animals or turn the lounge into a workshop, then your landlord won't be happy.

But if you're working on a computer in the bedroom, or stacking piles of stuff in the lounge to sell on ebay, say, no-one is going to care...

custardy

carolt wrote: »

It dependswhat the business is.

Obviously, if you start a business breeding animals or turn the lounge into a workshop, then your landlord won't be happy.

But if you're working on a computer in the bedroom, or stacking piles of stuff in the lounge to sell on ebay, say, no-one is going to care...

i think you may find on inspection of the property they would
as will the insurance you require

carolt

lostinrates wrote: »

Carolt, I think you over estimate the efficiency of UK's public transport network outside key areas of habitation. I really do.

Maybe. Or maybe you underestimate it? Because I don't drive I do experience the realities of public transport everywhere I go. It can be frustrating, but is rarely impossible. You just have to get out of the mindset of being able to order your time as you wish, and accept that you're going to have to fit in with what is available. For example, I currently get the only direct quick bus per day to where I'm working (there are slow buses too, but I'd never get there in time...). Knowing there's only 1 bus is a good motivator not to be late. On the way home, I get the slow bus, or failing that, if I'm running late, a cab.

If needs must, it's doable.

custardy

carolt wrote: »

Fair enough. But I think the numbers of people who live so far off a workable bus route or other public transport route as you describe must be small - certainly not sufficient numbers that all unemployed people should require the use of a car as an essential.

Maybe they should just accept the need to move nearer the work if they are in that position.

nobody said essential,just the lack of one can limit your area of possible employment

carolt

custardy wrote: »

i think you may find on inspection of the property they would
as will the insurance you require

Doubt it - no law against stacking your stuff in your lounge.

carolt

custardy wrote: »

nobody said essential,just the lack of one can limit your area of possible employment

Of course. But how many jobs do you need? One is sufficient.

You do have an overwhelming tendency to see the downside of every situation, don't you?

custardy

carolt wrote: »

Doubt it - no law against stacking your stuff in your lounge.

well im speaking from experience of running an ebay business from a private let, and getting grief from the landlord
what are you basing it on?

custardy

carolt wrote: »

Of course. But how many jobs do you need? One is sufficient.

You do have an overwhelming tendency to see the downside of every situation, don't you?

realism,I have travelled and worked many jobs
again you turn this on me,i will say again i am not speaking for me as i have job etc etc
i havent driven my car for 2 weeks as i havent needed to,i bus,cycle or walk
so i know about using public transport and have seen the good and bad in it

jamespir

i think it should be raised as essential costs are more than the amount it is now

but not so that it becomes cushy

carolt

PasturesNew wrote: »

Drive, tenacity.
Research skills, researching the marketplace, researching suppliers.
Spreadsheet skills to calculate your fees, time, costs, profit. Then to analyse the results.
Copywriting skills to draw the buyer in and convert a browser to a buyer.
Internet marketing skills to optimise your views for your product.
Marketing skills to promote your listings/store.
Time management skills, to manage the auction start/end dates and times and balance that with distance to a Post Office that's open.
Page layout skills, for choosing the correct font colours/layouts to optimise your selling chances.
The ability to understand and perform to eBay T&Cs.
Basic understanding of legal issues, what you can't/can't claim and your rights and responsibilities re refunds, items going missing and bad payers etc.

And that's just for starters.


You had a particular, specialist skill to promote and offer though. You knew your "path".


Vicky Pollard ...?

For most though, confidence is the hardest thing. For me it's confidence. I do something, it does well ... I get scared. I see how successful I've been and I want to run and hide. I'm scared of the success. Crazy I know, but more people are afraid of success than failure. My sister said to me "It's easiser to run and fail because it proves what you've been told all your life, that you're a failure ... and if you can just learn to move beyond that you'll see you can be a success ... and dad was wrong".

Disagree with your first part - if you had all those skills you would probably be a mega success, but without all or even any of those skills, you can still make a few quid. Tenacity counts for a lot.

Re the middle bit, my 'path' didn't just appear as a given - I created it - partly by design, partly by accident. And not everything I earn money from is related to that anyway - I've sold ebay stuff, done online stuff etc.

Re the last bit, I think that's that's 100% true, and possibly no more so than with yourself. You blatantly have great skills and abilities, but equally blatantly don't open doors with the key in them and an arrow saying 'open here' - and I'm sure you're right that fear of success rather than failure is actually the harder stumbling block. For everyone.