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yully6
yully6 Posts: 3 Newbie
edited 27 April 2010 at 10:36AM in Motoring
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  • McKneff
    McKneff Posts: 38,857 Forumite
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    You are supposed to SORN it, its in the terms and conditions of your certificate
    (log book)

    And yes, you do have to pay it. You didnt follow the rules.
    make the most of it, we are only here for the weekend.
    and we will never, ever return.
  • flutterbyuk25
    flutterbyuk25 Posts: 7,009 Forumite
    edited 26 April 2010 at 6:49PM
    McKneff wrote: »
    You are supposed to SORN it, its in the terms and conditions of your certificate
    (log book)

    This is totally incorrect. A SORN tells the DVLA that the vehicle is still yours but you are keeping it off road for time being.
    And yes, you do have to pay it. You didnt follow the rules.
    This however is correct.

    OP - you should have sent off Section 9 from your logbook/V5C to DVLA to notify that you had disposed of the vehicle. You would have then had letter back confirming that you were no longer the keeper.

    If this is the first penalty letter then the payment should be reduced to £40 if paid within a set time (usually 28 days)

    HTH
    * Rainbow baby boy born 9th August 2016 *

    * Slimming World follower (I breastfeed so get 6 hex's!) *
  • McKneff
    McKneff Posts: 38,857 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    This is totally incorrect. A SORN tells the DVLA that the vehicle is still yours but you are keeping it off road for time being.



    This however is correct.

    OP - you shuld have sent off Section 9 from your logbook/V5C to DVLA to notify that you had disposed of the vehicle. You would have then had letter back confirming that you were no longer the keeper.

    If this is the first penalty letter then the payment should be reduced to £40 if paid within a set time (usually 28 days)

    HTH

    My apologies to you both. Of course SORN stands for Statutory Off Road Notice, I wasnt thinking
    make the most of it, we are only here for the weekend.
    and we will never, ever return.
  • plane_boy2000
    plane_boy2000 Posts: 1,482 Forumite
    So I guess that you still havent told DVLA that you and the car have parted company?

    As registered keeper you are liable for any speeding tickets etc that somebody else could be racking up
  • wealdroam
    wealdroam Posts: 19,180 Forumite
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    As registered keeper you are liable for any speeding tickets etc that somebody else could be racking up
    Unlikely.

    The car was scrapped.

    Please re-read the first post. ;)
  • Thanks for all your advice, no I have done nothing yet, just been caught unawares by the £80 fine letter so thought I'd ask around first before proceeding. I'm still shocked that although I can prove it no longer exists, I didn't re-tax it or re-insure it because of this, I still have to pay )-;
  • jollyme
    jollyme Posts: 343 Forumite
    It might be worth a phone call and being honest with them, there's nothing much to lose and £80 to potentially gain. Being polite and honest often gets you further than you might realise - but to take this approach I would do it soon
  • babyshoes
    babyshoes Posts: 1,771 Forumite
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    Definitely phone them and explain honestly what happened i.e. you thought that the garage who scrapped it had taken care of the paperwork - at worst you will still have to pay the fine, but I know people who have had good results speaking nicely to the DVLA and have had similar fines squashed due to genuine confusion. They may ask you to write a letter to explain the situation and send in proof that it has been scrapped. It will depend on the person on the other end of the phone, but if you are nice they may just let you off.
    Trust me - I'm NOT a doctor!
  • McKneff
    McKneff Posts: 38,857 Forumite
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    We had one of these fines, it was during a time of illness for my husband,
    eye problems, then more eye problems eventually not ever being able to work again as a self employed painter and decorator. It was a very very worrying time and i explained this to them. They very kindly waived the fine.
    So nothing ventured nothing gained. Ring them tomorrow, you never know.
    make the most of it, we are only here for the weekend.
    and we will never, ever return.
  • flutterbyuk25
    flutterbyuk25 Posts: 7,009 Forumite
    OP - nothing can be done by phone, they will just tell you to appeal in writing as the phoneline is only to take payments (as explained on the letter). If you feel you want to appeal, put it in writing but do not hold your breath as you did not do what was required of you.

    BTW - I am ex-DVLA and used to deal with this on daily basis!

    x
    * Rainbow baby boy born 9th August 2016 *

    * Slimming World follower (I breastfeed so get 6 hex's!) *
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