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  • torontoboy45
    torontoboy45 Posts: 1,064 Forumite
    I don't agree Hamish.

    Money brings security. It certainly doesn't bring happiness.

    A holiday in the tropics, with lavish spending, doesn't bring any more happiness than a camping holiday in cornwall.

    Very very simply, it depends on what you get out of it personally.

    Not worrying about bills, a bigger house, a nicer car....thats merely security, not happiness.

    Sure, some will see the lavish holiday in the tropics as bringing them more happiness....but that's probably because of what people get used to. We all get used to our own standards. It's what you actually do, and expect from things that brings happiness.
    exactly.

    the law of diminishing returns.

    when you board an aircraft do you turn left or right?
    turn left and you're in 1st class. you'll be pleasantly surprised at the large leather seats, leg-room and menu.
    but do this once a month for 3yrs and it 'll become 'the same old'; you'll be no happier than when you were in cattle class and unaware of 1st.

    loads of moolah can cause problems of its own, but - truthfully - they're problems I wouldn't mind having.

    contentment, though, is the key which is something money doesn't always buy.
  • Jonbvn
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    carolt wrote: »
    Beyond a certain level of basic subsistence, having more money has been shown to have no impact on happiness.

    Why is it only people in "rich" economies ever make such sweeping statements?
    In case you hadn't already worked it out - the entire global financial system is predicated on the assumption that you're an idiot:cool:
  • Jonbvn
    Jonbvn Posts: 5,562 Forumite
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    when you board an aircraft do you turn left or right?
    turn left and you're in 1st class. you'll be pleasantly surprised at the large leather seats, leg-room and menu.
    but do this once a month for 3yrs and it 'll become 'the same old'; you'll be no happier than when you were in cattle class and unaware of 1st.

    I think we only ever appreciate how good we have it, when we lose it.

    Due to recent airline problems, I was forced to use a budget carrier........
    In case you hadn't already worked it out - the entire global financial system is predicated on the assumption that you're an idiot:cool:
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
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    carolt wrote: »
    Hamish is arguing that more money = more happiness. .

    You REALLY have a reading comprehension problem, don't you?

    I said.....

    That doesn't mean you have to be rich..... After a certain point it probably makes little difference.

    How did you understand that to mean "more money = more happiness"?
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • Jonbvn
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    carolt wrote: »

    Why would I need to do that? I am the wisest and richest 18 year old (at heart) I know.;)
    In case you hadn't already worked it out - the entire global financial system is predicated on the assumption that you're an idiot:cool:
  • ukcarper
    ukcarper Posts: 17,337 Forumite
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    We do not have it easy. Housing is a lot more expensive than it should be given the economic growth (rented or otherwise) over this time and my dad has said this many times (he was born late 50's!). He also knows that fuel as a whole (even water) has risen exponentially over the time he has been alive. He is not stupid.
    Clothing may be cheaper but it lacks the wear it used to and if it does usually costs the same percentage wise that it used to.
    Food I will agree is less but it is only a matter of time to when it is near or the same as it used to be I believe. Foor some of us it is bad enough. Worse may mean cutting back on needed calories if I'm honest!

    Petrol 1972 35p a gallon now £5.50 an increase about 15.5x
    Average salary 1972 £1.5k now £25k an increase of 16.5x
  • Cleaver
    Cleaver Posts: 6,989 Forumite
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    I don't agree Hamish.

    Money brings security. It certainly doesn't bring happiness.

    A holiday in the tropics, with lavish spending, doesn't bring any more happiness than a camping holiday in cornwall.

    Very very simply, it depends on what you get out of it personally.

    I don't want to speak for him, buy Hamish didn't really say this. He said that money could buy security and it's logical to assume that many people can make their lives happier from having an increased level of security and happiness in their lives.

    There will be anomalies out there, but this will be true for most.
  • Cleaver
    Cleaver Posts: 6,989 Forumite
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    carolt wrote: »
    Hamish is arguing that more money = more happiness.

    No he isn't. He said that having a certain amount of money can provide security, choices and freedom from certain things. Of course this doesn't mean that you will be happy, but it would probably give a lot of people the opportunity and basis on which to build happiness.

    As I've just responded to Graham, there will be excecptions to this. Some may be happy living on a beach with their thoughts and nothing else, and good on them. But many others will require a certain standard of living (i.e., money) in order to feel content, secure and build happiness. This isn't widescreen TVs, lavish holidays, flash cars etc. This is having a roof over your head, food in your fridge and the ability to just indulge in a few, small things that bring happiness, in my humble opinion.

    Money certainly doesn't buy happiness, but you need a certain amount to have an environment where happiness can thrive. This will obviously differ from person to person.
  • My 2 pence.

    A camping holiday with your mates vs a tropical holiday on your lonesome. The camping holiday will win every time.

    However a tropical holiday with all your mates where you fly off to football on the beach, sunshine, watersports, sailing on a catermaran (however it is spelt) along with all the other things money can buy will likley be enjoyed by all far more than a tent and some rain.
  • Exocet
    Exocet Posts: 744 Forumite
    carolt wrote: »
    the really important things you can't put a price on...
    I agree, just whack it on the credit card and enjoy. Life's too short for saving up first.
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