Weekly Signing On Again At Jobcentre for Six Weeks

tsimehC

Truegho, you're on Flexible New Deal right? Your adviser (or someone who's been seeing you) has initiated the normal 6-week signing interventions. Consider yourself lucky as it's that by default, it can go up to 13-weeks of weekly signing at the JCP's discretion (it was that in the old system). If you're going to remain unemployed to August then expect this to come full cycle as under FND, you'll be doing this again when your adviser see it's fit to do so.

Also, don't forget there's also two other types of markers that can be put on you. Most Frequent Attendance if you're not looking for work hard enough (not sure who sets this) and also daily signing which I can't imagine what that's like.

Have fun.

EltonA32

I can wholeheartly agree with what Truegho is saying. I am also on the weekly 6 week signing; again , it's just so this godawful Govn't can keep tabs on you. I've run out of contribution based JSA and I won't get income based as my partner works over 30 hours a week and earns over 18k, it doesn't matter that we have a daughter of 19 months.....

It's my second visit today at 11.10 on 'frontline' whatever that means. Thing is, I don't need telling or showing how to look for a job; I not like one of the usual druggy, alcohol dependant drop-outs that attend and have no intention of finding work and hey, they get all the benefits they want. Scum.
If this Govn't is not prepared to help my family financially when we are REALLY struggling then I am not prepared to go to that depressing place each week to sign on FOR NOTHING.
I live in a heavily Welsh speaking area and if you don't speak the language, it is extremely difficult to find work. So many jobs stipulate Welsh is needed for the role, which is rubbish as half of the people around here can't even READ Welsh never mind speak it and they'd rather use English words in conversations as they are 'easier' to say. I am surrounded by hypocrisy. Jobswales.co.uk advertise the majority of their jobs in Welsh, putting English folk at an automatic disadvantage. I've told the JSP office this, and frankly they don't care, they probably think I am just attacking the Welsh; I'm not but I am extremely angry about how companies here advertise positions - it should not be allowed. I know I would have had a job by now if it wasn't for this as I have a lot of experience and skills.
So I challenge anybody English to live here and find work even if you are trying your best.

So if they tell me today I'm not trying hard enough, I will tell them where to go and sign off. I've nothing to lose. It's all just bureaucratic bulls**t:mad:

ariarnia

SueC wrote: »

They don't pay travel costs for your 'normal' fortnightly sign. But they do for the 'extra' ones.

Round here at least only if it's more than £4

Which means when I was unemployed (until last march) then in one month I was called in 6 times (advisor meeting, swim, resheduled advisor meeting as they cancelled it without telling me until I turned up and normal sign in's) and got none of it refunded.

Owain_Moneysaver

EltonA32 wrote: »

I live in a heavily Welsh speaking area and if you don't speak the language, it is extremely difficult to find work. So many jobs stipulate Welsh is needed for the role, which is rubbish as half of the people around here can't even READ Welsh never mind speak it and they'd rather use English words in conversations as they are 'easier' to say.

Ask them to pay for a course for you to learn Welsh. Which they won't.

Then every time they comment on your jobseeking you can show them loads of opportunities which you could have applied for if they'd paid for the course.

Googlewhacker

The question is, will the OP actually reply to a thread they have started!!!

Mr_Falling_Star

The weekly signing interventions are there for partly for psychological reasons. By the 13 week and six month points some people get in a comfortable groove, the weekly signing is to remind them that they are only signing on temporarily. Mind you its a pretty broad brush I can well understand why people get annoyed

ESKIMO

v0id wrote: »

It's supposed to be so they can spend some time helping you in your jobsearch, as during the regular fortnightly signing there's not enough time as there's too many claimants.

You'll usually find they arrange for the 'extra signing day' between 8 and 9 in the morning or 6 and 8 in the evening

Also abit of motivation factor, keep you in check and on-track instead of it becoming the same-old-same-old routine.

Bottom-line increase productivity from you, use their resources, phones, utilise them make the system pay for itself in getting you back into the working environment.

They won't introduce 'signing-in' online either as 'some' with just give out their username and passwords to mates etc to 'do the dirty for them'.

It has to be 101.

dickydonkin

I wonder how many people offrering their thoughts here have actually been on these 'intensive job searches'?

They are a complete waste of time.

It is annoying when people come on these forums taking the moral high ground offering 'advice' on how unemployed people should behave, when these very same people have not experienced unemployment in the current climate - let alone stepped into a jobcentre.

I can sympathise with the OP.

Why not take this as an opportunity to adapt your attitude - they are trying to help you find work, I would be grateful, not see it as an inconvenience.

In my situation, they were only interested in getting me to sign off as I had accrued sufficient pension credits and was not entitled to income based JSA.

As they were totally ineffective at helping me get a job, I succumbed to their incessant pestering.

EltonA32

Owain_Moneysaver wrote: »

Ask them to pay for a course for you to learn Welsh. Which they won't.

Then every time they comment on your jobseeking you can show them loads of opportunities which you could have applied for if they'd paid for the course.

You're right, they won't. I do know a bit being with a 'Gog' (for those who don't know a 'Gog' is a northern welsh person - Gogledd Cymru - North Wales) so I hear it all the time and understand it a lot but cannot speak it fluently or write it fluently. However, I have taught myself to read it very well I'm told and I even sometimes end up spelling Welsh words for my Welsh fiancee! Living here, if I could speak the language fluently, I would choose to over English.

There are literally no Equal Opporunity employers here; how can there be if they ask Welsh is needed for the post. There's AFAIK Bangor Uni and Anglesey Council who conform to EO.

Oh and Owain, I've shown them all the jobs I could have applied for; once on DirectGov, there were 5 jobs in a row, that I was qualified to do, all stipulating Welsh as 'Essential':mad: I've nothing against the Welsh at all, apart from the fact that a lot of employers only want Welsh people working for them. Not great for the old divide is it.....?

I feel like giving up most times TBH:(

And I couldn't agree more with DPASSMORE'S comments:

"I wonder how many people offrering their thoughts here have actually been on these 'intensive job searches'?

They are a complete waste of time.

It is annoying when people come on these forums taking the moral high ground offering 'advice' on how unemployed people should behave, when these very same people have not experienced unemployment in the current climate - let alone stepped into a jobcentre."

People will never understand unless they have been there themselves. Especially when you live in a rural area AND you don't drive. If I could drive I would look further afield, say Llandudno or even Wrexham, but again, the salary would have to justify the commuting costs anyway.
All you continue to sign on for is to get your paultry £3.00 per week paid into your state pension. I for one, will NOT be doing this as from next week; I am intelligent enough to search for a job without the help of people who frankly, don't really care about your situation and are merely just trying to get you off the local unemployed stats list......

Googlewhacker

EltonA32 wrote: »

It is annoying when people come on these forums taking the moral high ground offering 'advice' on how unemployed people should behave, when these very same people have not experienced unemployment in the current climate - let alone stepped into a jobcentre."

People will never understand unless they have been there themselves. Especially when you live in a rural area AND you don't drive. If I could drive I would look further afield, say Llandudno or even Wrexham, but again, the salary would have to justify the commuting costs anyway.

If people post on an open forum then the advice they will get will be of many differant views, if they don't like it then they shouldn't post asking for advice.