Dismissal

dartilov

Hi

I will keep this short, I have a hearing over a disciplinary matter and after speaking to my union rep, dismissal is a possibility and one that I should be prepared for.

If I get dismissed, having never been unemployed before, what am I entitled to if anything?

I have a mortgage, 2 kids and a working wife but less than £2k of savings. Worked since age 17 now 43, been in current job nearly 4 years.

Are things like JSA, Council Tax credit, Working Tax Credit available to me either straight away or after a certain length of time as I have been dismissed.

Thanks in advance.

jdturk

if you know that the likelyhood is going to be a sacking and the union think that you do not have a strong case for appeal etc would it not be better to resign, this way it's not a black mark on your employment CV and could help you in the future for the job prospects. You could even ask that when you request a referance that they don't mention what you have done wrong (this all depends on how good terms you are on obviously)

I would assume your union guy has advised you what to do? If not speak to ACAS and go through the options with them

custardy

jdturk wrote: »

if you know that the likelyhood is going to be a sacking and the union think that you do not have a strong case for appeal etc would it not be better to resign, this way it's not a black mark on your employment CV and could help you in the future for the job prospects. You could even ask that when you request a referance that they don't mention what you have done wrong (this all depends on how good terms you are on obviously)

I would assume your union guy has advised you what to do? If not speak to ACAS and go through the options with them

resigning leaves the OP with no job seekers for weeks(i dont know the correct amount) and if the OP has mortgage cover the resiging would leave them with no cover

jdturk

custardy wrote: »

resigning leaves the OP with no job seekers for weeks(i dont know the correct amount) and if the OP has mortgage cover the resiging would leave them with no cover

Maybe but short term prospects over long term would be where I would be thinking and if you suddenly lose 4 years worth of employment on your CV due to being sacked for presumably gross misconduct cannot be a good thing for future employment.

These surely are the things the OP should be discussing with the union as well?

custardy

jdturk wrote: »

Maybe but short term prospects over long term would be where I would be thinking and if you suddenly lose 4 years worth of employment on your CV due to being sacked for presumably gross misconduct cannot be a good thing for future employment.

These surely are the things the OP should be discussing with the union as well?

not disagreeing,just making sure the OP is aware of some of the cons with the pros

jdturk

custardy wrote: »

not disagreeing,just making sure the OP is aware of some of the cons with the pros

definately which is why in all my posts including this one I keep saying, 'speak to your union guy about the possible outcomes' also if needs be speak to ACAS!

Emmzi

"self caused dismissal" for eg theft, gross misconuct, is generally not covered by insurance and leaves you ineligible for JSA anyway

ceridwen

If one resigns from a job then the disqualification period for JSA is up to 26 weeks. Having said that - there is a "hardship allowance" of a proportion of JSA that MIGHT be payable (presumably if there are no savings?????).

I've never had anything to do with mortgage insurance - but cannot imagine they would pay up if someone had resigned.

So - taken all round - I do understand the point about "better for job prospects to have resigned than been dismissed" - but I very much doubt that it would be a good idea to do that. Personally - I would wait and see if I was dismissed - and then see what "hardship allowance" I could get from JSA.

unclekevin

dartilov wrote: »

Hi

I will keep this short, I have a hearing over a disciplinary matter and after speaking to my union rep, dismissal is a possibility and one that I should be prepared for.

If I get dismissed, having never been unemployed before, what am I entitled to if anything?

I have a mortgage, 2 kids and a working wife but less than £2k of savings. Worked since age 17 now 43, been in current job nearly 4 years.

Are things like JSA, Council Tax credit, Working Tax Credit available to me either straight away or after a certain length of time as I have been dismissed.

Thanks in advance.

Can you say what your hearing is about that you think will lead you to your dismissal?

boopopps

I was dismissed for something I have not done, my mortgage insurance will not pay out and I cannot get JSA for 26 weeks, best of luck but theres no help out there unfortunately. Some agencies will not even help me in my search due to dismissal so maybe resigning is for the best unless you are not in the wrong, then fight to the end.

custardy

boopopps wrote: »

I was dismissed for something I have not done, my mortgage insurance will not pay out and I cannot get JSA for 26 weeks, best of luck but theres no help out there unfortunately. Some agencies will not even help me in my search due to dismissal so maybe resigning is for the best unless you are not in the wrong, then fight to the end.

not good,agencies have no shortage of people just now so they can be picky