The Great 'Get Paid To Generate Energy' Hunt

zeupater

Underscore wrote: »

Nope. Policy is underwritten by one of the sizeable insurers. Don't have it to hand, but was impressed when I saw it.

Not heard of REAL, but of course, the same logic that applies to any insurance of any nature should be applied here - i.e. if its a small/new/unheard of company underwriting the policy, there's a major risk of them not existing to pay on any claim.

Plenty of solid points and downsides on here, this thread and the previous one. Also plenty of unnecessary doom-saying.

Hi

REAL = http://www.realassurance.org.uk/ ... decent installers should have membership and follow the REAL code .... http://www.realassurance.org.uk/scheme/consumer-code

HTH
Z

Underscore

Thanks. So a REAL policy is covered by FSCS from what I can see?

zeupater

Hi All

Haven't posted on this for a few months, but considering the ongoing price debates resulting from the recent announcements I though that some may be interested in how the market had changed over the last 4 months ...... Spot pricing analysis for October is now available ......

http://www.solarserver.com/service/p...v-modules.html

Four months July to October 2011 ....

European manufactured panels fall to €1.29/Wp (-16.8%), with Chinese sourced panels reducing by 22.7%, so there's a very good indicator of the direction of the european panels too. Note that the average spot market price for european/chinese/japanese panels is now around £1.00/Wp ..... the continuing divergance of Chinese panel pricing from other sources looks like the larger Chinese manufacturers are continuing to attempt to buy market share and it looks like my prediction from June this year ....

"look out for some of the smaller european & asian manufacturers either pulling out of the market, merging, or simply going to the wall .... anyone have lesser known panels with a long term manufacturers' performance guarantee ??"

.... is coming to fruition

http://www.solarserver.com/solar-magazine/solar-news/current/2011/kw45/rec-accepts-usd-547-million-for-termination-of-solar-wafer-contract.html

http://www.solarserver.com/solar-magazine/solar-news/current/2011/kw36/spectrawatts-solar-cell-manufacturing-facility-is-up-for-sale-at-auction-due-to-bankruptcy.html

http://www.solarserver.com/solar-magazine/solar-news/current/2011/kw45/pv-manufacturer-photowatt-france-begins-bankruptcy-proceedings.html

http://www.solarserver.com/solar-magazine/solar-news/current/2011/kw35/pv-manufacturer-solyndra-suspends-production-files-for-chapter-11-bankruptcy.html

http://www.solarserver.com/solar-magazine/solar-news/current/2011/kw33/evergreen-solar-files-for-bankruptcy.html


.... etc, etc, etc ... whilst the larger manufacturers are continuing to receive central support or investment ....

http://www.solarserver.com/solar-magazine/solar-news/current/2011/kw45/china-citic-bank-to-provide-at-least-usd-127-billion-in-credit-to-et-solar.html

http://www.solarserver.com/solar-magazine/solar-news/current/2011/kw34/photovoltaics-in-italy-deutsche-bank-helaba-and-kfw-ipex-bank-provide-eur-110-million-in-loans-for-five-pv-plants.html

HTH
Z

zeupater

Hi All

Spot pricing analysis for December is available, so here are the 2011 year end figures ......

http://www.solarserver.com/service/pvx-spot-market-price-index-solar-pv-modules.html

European manufactured panels fall to €1.12/Wp (£0.93/Wp) resulting in a 34.4% reduction for the year, with Chinese sourced panels reducing by 44.9% over the year, giving a current spot price of €0.81/Wp (£0.68/Wp) ..... remember that these are 'spot' market pricing and do not necessarily reflect contracted pices for volume supply to schedule ...

HTH
Z

(Currency Conversion - £1 = €1.2)

Underscore

I was told by an installer that the largest rent a roofers were getting systems for 1200 they were buying in such bulk. So that's including inverters. They don't pay that well either so were looking at payback on each system of 18-24 months and then 23 years of FIT profit.

The above figures make that comfortably impossible though unless they were buying at a low fraction of spot price, which surely isn't possible?

Makelifesimple

To go back to where this topic started, there's a very good summary of what alternative energy or efficiency measures would be good specifically for your house at beenergysmart.co.uk

John_Pierpoint

Boarder line spam I think.
Now tell us that this is not just a method of swapping phone numbers for a commission?

Makelifesimple

In the end that's how the site makes money - but only after the user has seen the results of a survey following rdSAP methodology/DECC assumptions and has then decided there is something the user wants to investigate further - because it saves them money. Isn't that what this thread was started about?

zeupater

Makelifesimple wrote: »

In the end that's how the site makes money - but only after the user has seen the results of a survey following rdSAP methodology/DECC assumptions and has then decided there is something the user wants to investigate further - because it saves them money. Isn't that what this thread was started about?

Hi

In that case there's the non-commercial (?:D?) EST site which probably does almost exactly the same .... (http://www.energysavingtrust.org.uk/In-your-home) ... but much less likely to help destroy the planet with mailshots ...

HTH
Z

Makelifesimple

Although I think the Be Energy Smart site is easier to use, is updated to keep up with the rdSAP developments, and helps users find installers when they want to take the next step - which I found a bit of a daunting process when I attempted that through the EST site. I also think it gives you a much better picture of the amount you could save and the cost of each measure. Anyhow the more the message gets out the better.