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  • Some of you people are so rude! I myself am a chugger and proud of the work I do saving lives every single day. Some of you clearly don't understand what you're banging on about, so I thought I'd go to the trouble of registering and explaining for you.

    First of all, we're not going door to door to guilt trip you or force you into signing up. Some people are simply not aware of the work we do and we're just on the street to explain what we the charity stand for and promote. We're only taking up two minutes of your time to do so. Its really not that much of an effort to give up two minutes just to listen to what we have to say, even if you're not in a position to make a donation with us. I mean, how do you even know you want to give if you don't even know who we are?

    As for not wanting to give your bank details, all we need to make a direct debit, because we are a charity and different rules apply to us, is your bank account number and sort code. They're written on the bottom of every cheque you right for God's sake! If you went down to the bank with just your bank account number and sort code to get some money out they'd laugh you out of the place.

    And whats all this crap about us getting paid £300 to £400 a week? We get paid about £7 an hour. We're not paid on commision, because that'd encourage hard selling which we don't practice. We work because we care about the charity. If we were interested in making £300 to £400 a week we'd go work in sales. And none of your money goes towards our wages. Your money goes straight to the charity, we're paid by gift aid.

    So there are the facts, just so you know them. And please don't tell us to f off because it won't discourage us, we'll just be stood at the bottom of the road having a good laugh about the ignorant git we've just had at the door.
  • tesphen wrote: »
    Some of you people are so rude! I myself am a chugger and proud of the work I do saving lives every single day. Some of you clearly don't understand what you're banging on about, so I thought I'd go to the trouble of registering and explaining for you.

    First of all, we're not going door to door to guilt trip you or force you into signing up. Some people are simply not aware of the work we do and we're just on the street to explain what we the charity stand for and promote. We're only taking up two minutes of your time to do so. Its really not that much of an effort to give up two minutes just to listen to what we have to say, even if you're not in a position to make a donation with us. I mean, how do you even know you want to give if you don't even know who we are?

    As for not wanting to give your bank details, all we need to make a direct debit, because we are a charity and different rules apply to us, is your bank account number and sort code. They're written on the bottom of every cheque you right for God's sake! If you went down to the bank with just your bank account number and sort code to get some money out they'd laugh you out of the place.

    And whats all this crap about us getting paid £300 to £400 a week? We get paid about £7 an hour. We're not paid on commision, because that'd encourage hard selling which we don't practice. We work because we care about the charity. If we were interested in making £300 to £400 a week we'd go work in sales. And none of your money goes towards our wages. Your money goes straight to the charity, we're paid by gift aid.

    So there are the facts, just so you know them. And please don't tell us to f off because it won't discourage us, we'll just be stood at the bottom of the road having a good laugh about the ignorant git we've just had at the door.

    I take it this news item passed you by:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1306567/Fees-high-street-chuggers-eat-millions-donated-charities.html
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  • I take it this news item passed you by

    I try to avoid the Daily Mail but that story is a load of rubbish. If the fundraiser is doing his or her job correctly they will get the donor to apply for gift aid. Gift aid is more then enough to cover the cost of an effective fundraiser so that all of the donor's money goes directly to the charity and is not eaten up by admin costs.
  • cyberbob
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    tesphen wrote: »
    I try to avoid the Daily Mail but that story is a load of rubbish. If the fundraiser is doing his or her job correctly they will get the donor to apply for gift aid. Gift aid is more then enough to cover the cost of an effective fundraiser so that all of the donor's money goes directly to the charity and is not eaten up by admin costs.

    Your argument is flawed. It is costing the Charity money as they are not receiving the gift aid contribution as its going to pay for the collector.

    If I give money to a charity and apply for gift aid I want that contribution to go to the charity to. Not pay for administration or private companies to collect administer it. I don't want it to go and pay your wages. I would never contribute to a charity that collects donations and uses bottom feeding companies like this.
  • tesphen wrote:
    Some of you people are so rude! I myself am a chugger and proud of the work I do saving lives every single day. - Congratulations, I am also proud of the contributions I make to the charities I choose.

    First of all, we're not going door to door to guilt trip you or force you into signing up. Really? Raising the voice to a 'cause a scene' level and asking why I don't care about children/animals/earthquakes etc isn't a guilt trip then? You might not employ this technique, but plenty do.

    Some people are simply not aware of the work we do and we're just on the street to explain what we the charity stand for and promote. We're only taking up two minutes of your time to do so. Its really not that much of an effort to give up two minutes just to listen to what we have to say, even if you're not in a position to make a donation with us. I mean, how do you even know you want to give if you don't even know who we are? Perhaps we do know who you are and still, horror of horrors, don't want to give to your charity. Why should we give up any of our time when it is not convenient for us without being harassed and followed? Two minutes is generally how long it takes to get away, the chat is very rarely less than five or ten, and from an hour long lunch break, that is inconvenient.

    As for not wanting to give your bank details, all we need to make a direct debit, because we are a charity and different rules apply to us, is your bank account number and sort code. They're written on the bottom of every cheque you right for God's sake! If you went down to the bank with just your bank account number and sort code to get some money out they'd laugh you out of the place. Bank details can be sold on to make fake bank cards, which can cause credit problems or fraud. Learn the law and a little about technology before you reject complaints about potential identity theft.

    And whats all this crap about us getting paid £300 to £400 a week? We get paid about £7 an hour. We're not paid on commision, because that'd encourage hard selling which we don't practice. We work because we care about the charity. If we were interested in making £300 to £400 a week we'd go work in sales. And none of your money goes towards our wages. Your money goes straight to the charity, we're paid by gift aid. Gift aid is there to reclaim tax from UK taxpayers for the charity, not to pay you. Stop blagging sunshine, we know better.

    So there are the facts, just so you know them. And please don't tell us to f off because it won't discourage us, we'll just be stood at the bottom of the road having a good laugh about the ignorant git we've just had at the door. Thank you for those facts. We appreciate your time is valuable, which is a great deal more courtesy than many chuggers demonstrate to others.
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  • marleyboy
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    edited 3 September 2010 at 2:53PM
    I get the dreaded door knock about 3-4 times a week, in some cases I have had 2-3 in one day. I already contribute to charity and make that quite clear to them whenever they call, I would not contribute to any charity who feels they need to knock on my door and beg.

    The guilt trip or insistent ones get a more sterner "NO", I used to have a sticker that said "No Salesmen, Charities or Canvassers" placed on my door, but they never took the hint and decided to knock anyway, needless to say its a futile attempt, as "No" means "No".
    We're only taking up two minutes of your time to do so. Its really not that much of an effort to give up two minutes just to listen to what we have to say, even if you're not in a position to make a donation with us.

    Thats two minutes too much, you are really in no position to tell me what I can do with MY two minutes, moreso its a BIG effort to spend a whole two minutes to say "NO", you can only say it so many times before it gets irritable.
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  • I have noticed an increase in the charity door to door sales recently. Have to admit it gets on my tits, because it is definately a guilt trip thing. We give plenty to charity and I don't need some cocky young git giving me all the sales pitch an my doorstep!

    I understand charities may be finding it hard in the current climate in the form of donations but I wouldn't be suprised if the shops are doing a brisk trade at the moment.
  • tesphen wrote: »
    Some of you people are so rude! I myself am a chugger and proud of the work I do saving lives every single day. Some of you clearly don't understand what you're banging on about, so I thought I'd go to the trouble of registering and explaining for you.

    First of all, we're not going door to door to guilt trip you or force you into signing up. Some people are simply not aware of the work we do and we're just on the street to explain what we the charity stand for and promote. We're only taking up two minutes of your time to do so. Its really not that much of an effort to give up two minutes just to listen to what we have to say, even if you're not in a position to make a donation with us. I mean, how do you even know you want to give if you don't even know who we are?

    I'm proud of my work, too, but I don't feel the need to corner people on the street or in their own homes, or cold call them to tell them about it.
    You may well be an extremely polite 'chugger', but not everyone is as nice as you!

    The arrogant assumption that if you don't want to give to 'their' charity you are somehow morally lacking as a person is probably the most offensive part of the whole business. The most annoying is that they hardly ever, take "Sorry, I'm not interested" as an answer.

    I'm not rude to people for no reason, but not taking no for an answer is a good enough reason as far as I'm concerned.
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  • Miggie
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    Our latest thing has been evangelical Christians and (separately) Jehovah's witnesses knocking on our door. Last week two rather gorgeous-looking young JW men knocked in the early afternoon while I'd been asleep on nights so I answered the door in my comfortable (i.e. tatty) dressing gown, took one look and said, " I'd love a chat - do come in! They left so fast they were almost running...
  • lincroft1710
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    tesphen wrote: »
    I myself am a chugger and proud of the work I do saving lives every single day

    Ambulance personnel save lives, doctors save lives, surgeons save lives, vets save lives, the fire service save lives, lifeboat personnel save lives, chuggers do not save lives.

    The people who contribute to your charity may help to save lives.
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