Job Hunting in NI

spendaholiceejit

murphy306 wrote: »

I had applied for some evening / weekend factory jobs but as usual as I have lived here all my life it seems to be my downfall, however if I was not from this country I would have got the job before I went in for interview - raging !!!!!

Stick a -ski on the end of your surname when you are filling in the application next time? Murphyski? Or Murphosolvic?

murphy306

LMAO good idea

no it seems to be that factories and that only will take on Foreigners.....

warmhands.coldheart

murphy306 wrote: »

LMAO good idea

no it seems to be that factories and that only will take on Foreigners.....

Thats because they are less likely to complain about working conditions and more likely to work extra hours or extra shifts when asked last minute!! can't blame them really!!

SnowyOwl_2

I hope this thread doesn't deteriorate into an anti-foreigner tirade. There's enough racist and hate related behaviour in the real world eg a recent fire in Newry:

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As I mentioned before if anyone believes they have been discriminated against because of their nationality or their race they are perfectly entitled to challenge that discrimination. Blaming foreigners for decisions made by local employers does not help anyone.

spendaholiceejit

I don't think anyone is taking it that seriously Snowy, I like the NI forum on here, I think it's pretty friendly all round.

warmhands.coldheart

SnowyOwl wrote: »

I hope this thread doesn't deteriorate into an anti-foreigner tirade. There's enough racist and hate related behaviour in the real world eg a recent fire in Newry:

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As I mentioned before if anyone believes they have been discriminated against because of their nationality or their race they are perfectly entitled to challenge that discrimination. Blaming foreigners for decisions made by local employers does not help anyone.

I was no being racist in my comment. just making the point that the foreign workers are generally less likely to compalin about things in a factory environment and as they are hard workers will take all the extra hours they can get at short notice which suits factory type jobs

Snoozle

Pythagorous wrote: »

this climbing up the ladder business intrigues me. Just out of interest what exactly is the attraction of climbing up the corporate ladder for folk out there. Is it the additional pay, responsibility, feeling of doing well, more exciting work?

I'm just interested since having worked in the corporate life for a number rof years I came to the conclusion that climbing the ladder meant getting a bit of a pay rise, but having to deal with so much more s**t, stress, hassle etc that imho it wasn't worth it.

I think its a misconception that a 'bottom of the heap' job always means no stress. Yes, logic tells you that the higher up you are, the more responsibility you have to take, the more hassle etc. and I'm sure that generally that is true (its certainly how it should be!) but I used to work in a large well known NI business. In our department, we were so shortstaffed that the most junior employees knocked their heads in working all the hours under the sun, unpaid overtime every evening (not uncommon, I know, before people start jumping on what I've said!), overtime on Saturdays, and this soon crept on to being expected to work Sundays as well. The senior staff, meanwhile, took two hour lunches in fancy restuarants to 'talk shop' (even though they weren't meeting outside representatives or anything, it was just the department managers who worked together all day anyway), closed down their computers at 5pm and sauntered out, and disappeared for whole afternoon's to play golf. They qualified for bonuses at the end of the year, based on the department productivity, but the junior staff had no bonus system. The final straw was when we discovered that on the rare occasion when a manager did stay late, along with the 'plebs' they were paid overtime, whilst the junior staff were told there was no budget for overtime. If thats the corporate ladder, its no wonder people want to climb it, I know I certainly did !

x12yhp

Pythagorous wrote: »

this climbing up the ladder business intrigues me. Just out of interest what exactly is the attraction of climbing up the corporate ladder for folk out there. Is it the additional pay, responsibility, feeling of doing well, more exciting work?

I'm just interested since having worked in the corporate life for a number rof years I came to the conclusion that climbing the ladder meant getting a bit of a pay rise, but having to deal with so much more s**t, stress, hassle etc that imho it wasn't worth it.

I don't know about others but I certainly was educated and trained to do things for myself, think for myself, make decisions for myself... I feel very uncomfortable with someone telling me how and what to do all the time, not least because I often am more than confident that there is something far from 'right' about what I am being told to do. At the least I need to be able to have a say and that would take one to climb the ladder. Of course I am unwilling to do so because I would probably have to kill myself rather than put up with a bunch of fresh graduates as colleagues!:rotfl: