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Ross Kemp on voting Labour

I came in to this world with nothing and I've still got most of it left. :rolleyes:
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  • marklv
    marklv Posts: 1,768 Forumite
    bo_drinker wrote: »

    It's not a question of why one should vote Labour but why one shouldn't vote Conservative. The Tories, more than ever, are the party of privilege, of wealth and even of aristocracy. The Tories were better under Thatcher than they are now - and that's saying something!
  • robpw2
    robpw2 Posts: 14,044 Forumite
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    i think we should all vote for anyone but labour ill be voting conservatives - labour are the party of stealth taxes -of punishing people withiout trial


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  • Kohoutek
    Kohoutek Posts: 2,861 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    marklv wrote: »
    It's not a question of why one should vote Labour but why one shouldn't vote Conservative. The Tories, more than ever, are the party of privilege, of wealth and even of aristocracy. The Tories were better under Thatcher than they are now - and that's saying something!

    Why are so many of their shadow cabinet/MPs not privileged or members of the aristocracy then? Look beyond the figureheads.
  • moggylover
    moggylover Posts: 13,324 Forumite
    marklv wrote: »
    It's not a question of why one should vote Labour but why one shouldn't vote Conservative. The Tories, more than ever, are the party of privilege, of wealth and even of aristocracy. The Tories were better under Thatcher than they are now - and that's saying something!


    I don't think they were any better: but at least they were a little more up-front about their intentions than the current lot are!

    Personally, I agree with Ross, same old leopard and same old spots: even if they have had a touch of airbrushing;)
    "there are some persons in this World who, unable to give better proof of being wise, take a strange delight in showing what they think they have sagaciously read in mankind by uncharitable suspicions of them"
    (Herman Melville)
  • markharding557
    markharding557 Posts: 3,116 Forumite
    I struggle to see what the tories allege to offer over the current morons
  • wymondham
    wymondham Posts: 6,356 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Photogenic Mortgage-free Glee!
    Sorry, but he's just a bloke off telly, not in any way shape or form someone to take political advice off. My budgie has political views (he must do, he's blue!), maybe I should arrange an interview!

    ps: I don't actually have a budgie, but just thought it made a point writing that!
  • bo_drinker
    bo_drinker Posts: 3,924 Forumite
    I have voted Tory all my life but I will never vote for David Cameron


    7/04/2010


    Dear David,

    Living in a marginal constituency, I know how important my vote is to you. And by rights it should be the Conservatives I put my cross against on May 6.

    After all, I live in a middle-class area just a few roads away from where John Major was raised. My children go to the same school he did. I’m a mum of three with a professional husband and I have always voted Conservative. I even went to a private school and am an admirer of Margaret Thatcher.

    But this time will be different. This time I cannot bring myself to vote for a party which is led by someone I frankly do not trust.

    I just can’t buy into the image you are trying to present to the electorate of yourself as a man of the people.

    It rings hollow, like a second-hand car dealer trying to convince a buyer the mileage on the clock is genuine. Because we all know you are not genuine. You are not like us, even though you try to convince us you are.

    How am I supposed to believe that a millionaire former Eton schoolboy, with a wife from a titled family, who lives in a posh house in one of the most desirable postcodes in the country can possibly empathise with the issues I face in my day-to-day life?

    It’s nothing personal, I’m sure you are a decent man. It’s not that I don’t think you could be a capable prime minister.

    But the problem is, at a time when you are asking voters to have faith in you and trust you to do a better job than Gordon Brown, I simply find I can’t trust you. And I believe that a PM should be someone you can trust implicitly.

    I’m sure underneath the spin and the gloss you are a decent hard-working family man, but you paint yourself as matey Dave, the kind of bloke everyone wants a pint with down the local. And we all know that’s just not you. It is an act to lure us.

    Your local is more likely to be a St James’s members-only club.

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    I doubt you’ve ever been to a Harvester before. The photo opportunities, the trendy trainers, the incessant jogging, the cycling to work, it all rings hollow. And because of that I, and lots of other mothers like me struggling to make a decent life for our children, find you slightly slippery.

    I’m sure this isn’t the case but when Samantha announced she was pregnant I even had a moment of doubt when I wondered if that was part of your PR plan. Why would I think that? Probably because the bond of trust between you and your natural voter has unravelled. There are so many contradictions it’s hard to know what you and the Conservatives now stand for.

    You are eco-Dave, saviour of the environment. However, your official car chugs along behind you when you jump on your bike.

    You’re dress-down Dave, casual and cuddly with a wife who wears M&S to the party conference to show how normal you both are. But she is then pictured in a designer coat costing more than my monthly mortgage payment.

    You tell us you know how difficult it is raising a family and struggling to get by. Yet you’re not mortgaged to the hilt like most of Middle England and, as a schoolboy and student, you lived a life of privilege at Eton and Oxford, where you were buddies with Boris Johnson and the rest of the posh crew.

    In short, we have nothing in common, so I don’t expect you could understand the trials and tribulations of my everyday life.

    It seems to me that what you really care about most is how you are perceived.

    You want us to believe you are one of us. But we all know that’s not true and in the end the impression you leave is of a man desperate to be liked who is trying too hard to disguise who he really is. And that’s the problem. It’s not because you are posh, or privileged.

    As far as I am concerned financial background and breeding is not and should not be an issue when it comes to political leaders.

    In fact, sometimes it is a distinct advantage to be posh and part of the elite.

    The problem is that you are not honest about it. You do not stand up and say, “this is me, this is who I am”. Perhaps you should. I would respect you more if you did, even if it meant I still couldn’t relate to you. At least it would mean I could trust you. Yours, Tany
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2010/04/07/i-have-voted-tory-all-my-life-but-i-will-never-vote-for-david-cameron-115875-22166887/
    I came in to this world with nothing and I've still got most of it left. :rolleyes:
  • cogito
    cogito Posts: 4,898 Forumite
    bo_drinker wrote: »
    I have voted Tory all my life but I will never vote for David Cameron


    7/04/2010


    Dear David,

    Living in a marginal constituency, I know how important my vote is to you. And by rights it should be the Conservatives I put my cross against on May 6.

    After all, I live in a middle-class area just a few roads away from where John Major was raised. My children go to the same school he did. I’m a mum of three with a professional husband and I have always voted Conservative. I even went to a private school and am an admirer of Margaret Thatcher.

    But this time will be different. This time I cannot bring myself to vote for a party which is led by someone I frankly do not trust.

    I just can’t buy into the image you are trying to present to the electorate of yourself as a man of the people.

    It rings hollow, like a second-hand car dealer trying to convince a buyer the mileage on the clock is genuine. Because we all know you are not genuine. You are not like us, even though you try to convince us you are.

    How am I supposed to believe that a millionaire former Eton schoolboy, with a wife from a titled family, who lives in a posh house in one of the most desirable postcodes in the country can possibly empathise with the issues I face in my day-to-day life?

    It’s nothing personal, I’m sure you are a decent man. It’s not that I don’t think you could be a capable prime minister.

    But the problem is, at a time when you are asking voters to have faith in you and trust you to do a better job than Gordon Brown, I simply find I can’t trust you. And I believe that a PM should be someone you can trust implicitly.

    I’m sure underneath the spin and the gloss you are a decent hard-working family man, but you paint yourself as matey Dave, the kind of bloke everyone wants a pint with down the local. And we all know that’s just not you. It is an act to lure us.

    Your local is more likely to be a St James’s members-only club.

    Advertisement - article continues below »

    I doubt you’ve ever been to a Harvester before. The photo opportunities, the trendy trainers, the incessant jogging, the cycling to work, it all rings hollow. And because of that I, and lots of other mothers like me struggling to make a decent life for our children, find you slightly slippery.

    I’m sure this isn’t the case but when Samantha announced she was pregnant I even had a moment of doubt when I wondered if that was part of your PR plan. Why would I think that? Probably because the bond of trust between you and your natural voter has unravelled. There are so many contradictions it’s hard to know what you and the Conservatives now stand for.

    You are eco-Dave, saviour of the environment. However, your official car chugs along behind you when you jump on your bike.

    You’re dress-down Dave, casual and cuddly with a wife who wears M&S to the party conference to show how normal you both are. But she is then pictured in a designer coat costing more than my monthly mortgage payment.

    You tell us you know how difficult it is raising a family and struggling to get by. Yet you’re not mortgaged to the hilt like most of Middle England and, as a schoolboy and student, you lived a life of privilege at Eton and Oxford, where you were buddies with Boris Johnson and the rest of the posh crew.

    In short, we have nothing in common, so I don’t expect you could understand the trials and tribulations of my everyday life.

    It seems to me that what you really care about most is how you are perceived.

    You want us to believe you are one of us. But we all know that’s not true and in the end the impression you leave is of a man desperate to be liked who is trying too hard to disguise who he really is. And that’s the problem. It’s not because you are posh, or privileged.

    As far as I am concerned financial background and breeding is not and should not be an issue when it comes to political leaders.

    In fact, sometimes it is a distinct advantage to be posh and part of the elite.

    The problem is that you are not honest about it. You do not stand up and say, “this is me, this is who I am”. Perhaps you should. I would respect you more if you did, even if it meant I still couldn’t relate to you. At least it would mean I could trust you. Yours, Tany
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2010/04/07/i-have-voted-tory-all-my-life-but-i-will-never-vote-for-david-cameron-115875-22166887/

    It wouldn't be at all difficult to rewrite this by substituting Gordon Brown for David Cameron.
  • dealsearcher
    dealsearcher Posts: 756 Forumite
    cogito wrote: »
    It wouldn't be at all difficult to rewrite this by substituting Gordon Brown for David Cameron.

    It's even easier to cut and paste it. :naughty:
  • Running_Horse
    Running_Horse Posts: 11,809 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    This is part of the problem. There is no clear difference between them.

    Cameron has come out with very few ideas or policies, and needs to do better than "I'm not Gordon Brown".

    Although I dont usually vote Labour, I think I will this time out.
    To their credit, when Labour swept to power they had a fully costed and detailed plan, and people could make an informed choice. I still have absolutely no idea what Cameron stands for, or what his vision is for this country five years from now. Does he even know? "Slightly less national debt than Labour" is not an inspiring slogan.
    Been away for a while.
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