Pay cut ... or we axe 800 jobs

lemonjelly

treliac wrote: »

One of the best examples to look at is the privatised home care service as we now have it. Absolute crap for so many elderly and disabled people who are neglected and badly treated and don't have the voice or strength to do anything about it.

Quite right.

& in addition, they frequently don't have close family monitoring/supporting them closely enough to be aware of some of these issues, & they only complain when the poor relative dies (if they aren't too busy sqabbling over the inheritance).

It is a bit of a damning indictment of society to be honest...

doire_2

kennyboy66 wrote: »

Let me get this right. A quasi council firm is making people redundant and people on this board are celebrating.
These people are home helps / cleaners / dinner ladies. Maybe £7 an hour is too much (certainly more than private sector in Glasgow), but in general, the majority of these jobs need doing.

I can think of plenty of things the State should not be doing but providing education is not one of them. If we have state schools, someone has to clean them and someone has to feed the kids.

What is wrong with you people ?

Who is celebrating?

kennyboy66_2

dopester wrote: »

I've got way more sympathy for these £7ph workers, than MarkIV's (name?) position on the teacher thread, calling for pay-freezes/cuts to be limited to those only earning £65K or more.

I've got no evidence for this, but it seems to me that the minimum-wage, which perhaps allowed some workers to earn £1 / £2 ph more by law (and may have cost jobs too) from a free-market / choice to take a job paying £X ph or not..

..also was the beginning of massive pay-rise awards for employees higher up in the employment-chain, especially in the public sector, to £10K-£40K increases on what they'd otherwise be paid without the minimum wage having come in.

I used to fully support the minimum wage, but I do have some reservations (particulalry when councils set their own minimum wage). There was a programme about a Lincolnshire Asparagus farmer recently, where the miminum wage was a clear disincentive for both the guy to employ some locals, and for those people to match the productivity of migrant workers.

Increasingly care work (home helps) has been privatised. This has added a another layer of management / bureaucracy in addition to the profit. Home helps are now expected to provide exact number of minutes help (some as low as 12 min) before rushing to the next job. It is difficult to recruit people even in area of high unemployment.

I happen to think that their should be almost some compulsion for people to work rather than have a life on benefits. The problem is, who would want these people looking after the elderly ?

kennyboy66_2

doire wrote: »

Who is celebrating?

"about time", "utter barstwerds", "easy ride", "get in the real world".

I can almost hear the champagne corks popping at Daily Mail towers were most of this board seems to reside.

ps

Most of the people affected by this probably have more of a clue about "the real world" than 95% of posters here - including myself.