UAC and Auto AV Updates

Iconic

I have just moved from XP to Win7 and am trying to get my head round UAC.

Some people don't seem to rate UAC and advise turning it off but is there any way to override UAC for AV updates only?

Richie-from-the-Boro

Iconic wrote: »

I have just moved from XP to Win7 and am trying to get my head round UAC.

Some people don't seem to rate UAC and advise turning it off but is there any way to override UAC for AV updates only?

Maybe it's the other way round my friend, any AV program that [ report back requirement Win7 ] won't work without the UAC switched off is not Win7 certified ?

If your AV won't update automatically, how can you be confident it's even working [ real time ] at all ?

A bit more info required from you !, what AV ?

"" any way to override UAC for AV updates only "" not that I'm aware of, UAC is all or nothing, you can't do ' selective ' disable

Iconic

Richie-from-the-Boro wrote: »

Maybe it's the other way round my friend, any AV program that [ report back requirement Win7 ] won't work without the UAC switched off is not Win7 certified ?

If your AV won't update automatically, how can you be confident it's even working [ real time ] at all ?

A bit more info required from you !, what AV ?

"" any way to override UAC for AV updates only "" not that I'm aware of, UAC is all or nothing, you can't do ' selective ' disable

Thanks for your reply. I am using Avira and every couple of days I get a warning that it's not up to date. After agreeing to the UAC screen it updates OK.

spud17

Using Avira here with 7, and never have problems with updates, never had a UAC prompt either when updating.

Is it Avira 10? Because I'm still on 9.

Richie-from-the-Boro

Spud17, ten is around with mixed opinions, although I don't think it's a final release [ September when v9 expires ? ] : http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=Avira+10&btnG=Search&meta=cr%3DcountryUK|countryGB

The O/P doesn't state 64 or 32bit but it should work on both.

I used to think that one of the best weapons in the [ virus / malware ] gun cupboard was UAC, but I've run Win7 & Vista since the BETA days with it completely disabled and never had a problem, ever !

Ars says that if 100% of the people posting in this section of MSE were to turn on / and up / the UAC .. .. .. problem posts would reduce by almost 50% + : http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2010/03/half-of-windows-flaws-mitigated-by-removing-admin-rights.ars

Now to the O/P, i've no idea !. I have a Vista gaming rig, to replicate your problem I put ten on, it works and updates fine with and without UAC. I've done a search for others with your particular issue and can find none - you seem to be in a minority of one.

So until you find a solution you will need to cripple UAC for AV updates and then re-enable

PhylPho

I moved (reluctantly) from XP to Vista 15 months ago.

First thing I did was turn UAC off. It's been off ever since.

The PC is protected by Avast AV, Online Armor firewall and Win Patrol. No problems. No malware.

And no Nanny State UAC.

RobTang

UAC on windows 7 has differnt levels, so you might want to try tweeking it till you get what you want.

I think the problem with UAC is most users dont understand what it actually does because it was driven from the business domain not a consumer domain (and that its not really explained either).

So they just see the nag screen.

Iconic

Thanks again for your replies.

It's Avira 10 and Win7 64 bit with UAC on the default level.

I will wait until it happens again and report back.

spud17

Spud17, ten is around with mixed opinions, although I don't think it's a final release [ September when v9 expires ? ]

Yes. I've been having the prompts since mid March, but I've been hanging back, it's so good, but I was still going to give it a month before switching.

spud17

Iconic wrote: »

Thanks again for your replies.

It's Avira 10 and Win7 64 bit with UAC on the default level.

I will wait until it happens again and report back.

Have you tried altering the UAC from the default?

DCFC79

im on win 7 with avira and dont get pestered with UAC although i do get asked if i do want to install a program that i clicked on to install, also while im here is there a way to set every program to run as administrator ?