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lostinrates wrote: »Why not go and do something you will enjoy?
I don't work
I'm still looking for that rich widow who needs a toyboy.0 -
No, I'm not, because I'm wasting my time here arguing with blockheads who have been brainwashed by the tabloid press. Which begs me to ask: how many people on this forum are actually working? Not many, by the looks of it! :rotfl:
I'm technically a public sector worker and working hard too:rotfl:
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You have identified skillsets which you claim are only valuable in the public sector but clearly all skillsets are transferable (as you have shown in moving across).
I do accuse my wife of working in the department of Crosswords and Sudoku in the past. (TBF she does work hard now)
Not sure how transferable they are.:D0 -
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A social worker can work in the now (mostly privatised) care sector. A manager for the Department of Transport can be a logistics manager, at any one of the various private logistics firms. Or a manager for many other companies, most people don't need to stay in the same industry to manage people. The employment service advisor can be a freelance careers advisor.
I'm not devaluing the public sector, I'm asking each and everyone of them to be accountable for the service they provide. You have identified skillsets which you claim are only valuable in the public sector but clearly all skillsets are transferable (as you have shown in moving across).
There is already accountability in place. Many people think that the public sector is a jungle of waste and layabouts who are accountable to noone. Maybe that's the way it was in the 1970s but not now. There is huge pressure to keep costs down and every new job needs a business case that must be carefully drawn up and submitted to the directors for consideration before it can be approved.
The above examples you give are really very stretching possibilities, as such vacancies in the private sector are few and far between. In reality if these people were put back in the labour market they would have big problems finding work. You also forget that many private sector employers do not like to take people on from the public sector, for cultural reasons.0 -
OK, so you are happy with this then? If so, you are in a minority.
i'd rather be paid more than i am, but so would every single person in the entire world. i understand why my pay has to be frozen.I never said that private sector should be taxed more, but that everyone should be taxed equally. You're just making assumptions that most low paid people in the private sector have had pay freezes, which is plainly wrong, and there is such a thing as the minimum wage, which has certainly not been frozen.
of course you said that the private sector should be taxed more. if you want more money, someone has to pay for it.Wrong, wrong, wrong.
that's a great argument, but the reality is that the budget deficit is £170,000,000,000 or 13% of GDP, and in order to get it under control everyone has to suffer (if receiving 1% payrises counts as suffering). you just want everything to be flexed so that you the particular pay grade you work at gets a payrise. sorry, but i don't agree this is a sensible policy. the fact is, if you have recently joined the public sector, you would have known that there was going to be severe pressure on payroll costs (it's hardly a new thing this year) - you took your job knowing this would likely happen, so you shouldn't have joined, you should have got one of the other magical jobs you talk about.Well, I'm certainly up for a fight. The impact of strikes is not the length, but the disruption they cause, hence the reason for several short and sharp strikes. And there is also such a thing as 'working to rule'. In short, there are lots of ways to cause hassle for the government through industrial action.
working to rule? the sort of people who join unions and go on strike are the sort of people who already apply that philosophy on a day to day basis.
you may be up for a fight, but if you would rather strike and sacrifice 4% of your pay in order to fight for a 3% increase, because a 1% increase isn't fair then, well, you are a bit odd.0 -
Many people think that the public sector is a jungle of waste..there is huge pressure to keep costs downevery new job needs a business case that must be carefully drawn up and submitted to the directors for consideration before it can be approved.
hahaha. can't you see the irony?0 -
The above examples you give are really very stretching possibilities, as such vacancies in the private sector are few and far between. In reality if these people were put back in the labour market they would have big problems finding work.
But to be in the job market today you have to be flexible, that's what is said in the private sector. Surely the public sector worker must also be the same?
I don't understand why the need for such delineation?
I don't think the manager will have a problem finding a job (if after all, he was a good one). The thing is, you advocate the private sector workers to go and look for a job if they are not happy, can we not say the same to public sector workers? I mean, if you're not happy with a pay-cap or a pay-cut, up sticks and look for a better job?0 -
So what? Should public sector accountant salaries be pegged at the lowest levels in the private sector? Why should they? I believe they should be pegged at the 'big firm' levels or at the levels of other organisations of the same size and budget as the public sector organisations employing these accountants.
Most public sector workers will have tried to get these "big firm" jobs at some time in their careers and failed. The same as many in the private sector will have tried at some point. There are only so many big money jobs which go to sometimes the lucky and sometimes the talented.
The public sector somehow thinks that their individual failure should be compensated by the rest of us.0
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