Garage conversion

sunshinetours

shane42 wrote: »

ok lets consider this; in virtually all cases the floor needs to be insulated possibley dug up first as the depth is not enough BC will want about 300mm of cellotex or similar add the DPM, labour to do this skips to remove, thats about 2.5k gone before you really start, electrics plumbing best part of 1 k, brick work plus window say 1.5 k, so 5k as a minimum before you plaster board and plaster ,plus you need to insulate the walls and the celing, do you already have an adjoing door is it in the right place, fees to BC decorating cost etc the list goes on , you wont do a professional job for 5 k

No you won't be able to pay a "professional" to do it for £5k - there is a difference.

As Doozergirl said a good DIYer could do a good bulk of the work and bring it in close to this figure I am sure. We paid far more than £5k but I am well aware I could have taken much time off work etc and done a chunk of the work myself. I chose to however earn money and pay someone else

shane42

sunshinetours wrote: »

No you won't be able to pay a "professional" to do it for £5k - there is a difference.

As Doozergirl said a good DIYer could do a good bulk of the work and bring it in close to this figure I am sure. We paid far more than £5k but I am well aware I could have taken much time off work etc and done a chunk of the work myself. I chose to however earn money and pay someone else

so a good diy er could do
the electrics with a part p and EIC?
the brick work ?
the window that needs to be signed of by a fensa registered co?
the plastering to a quality finnish?

shane42

a poor quality conversion is probably worth less than a standard garage.

Doozergirl

shane42 wrote: »

ok lets consider this; in virtually all cases the floor needs to be insulated possibley dug up first as the depth is not enough BC will want about 300mm of cellotex or similar add the DPM, labour to do this skips to remove, thats about 2.5k gone before you really start, electrics plumbing best part of 1 k, brick work plus window say 1.5 k, so 5k as a minimum before you plaster board and plaster ,plus you need to insulate the walls and the celing, do you already have an adjoing door is it in the right place, fees to BC decorating cost etc the list goes on , you wont do a professional job for 5 k

I know exactly what needs doing. On a self-managed route, it could very easily come in at 5k. Much less, DIY. £2500 on digging a hole and filling it with polystyrene,sand, cement and a layer of polythene?

Two skips or perhaps lose much of it in the garden if possible. Less than £100 per cubic metre of concrete - shipped in, can't be more than £500; less if self-mixed. Fully compliant window could be purchased for £200 and a day or two labour for the builder to complete the front can't cost £1500 even with the bricks it's less than £1000.

£1000 for an electrician to alter the exisitings and one new radiator? Seriously? A monkey could organise a new radiator.

Building Control fee would be less than £200. I'm not putting together a full budget but we priced ours up at £3000 and I can break down your estimates so far and not come up with that much. Would not have to cost much more than £5000 at all including a good degree of labour unless you're paying someone to manage absolutely everything for you.

shane42

i am sorry but your description of the task indicate you dont fully understand whats involved..

Doozergirl

shane42 wrote: »

i am sorry but your description of the task indicate you dont fully understand whats involved..

:rotfl: I just said I wasn't preparing a full budget but I know that breaking down the elements of what you mentioned to a much further degree than you did doesn't add to what you say it does.

At the moment, we are fully renovating a house that was riddled with dry rot and are building what is essentially another house onto the back of it. And it's not the first time. Last week, amongst digging the 2m footings for the extension we dug up the existing kitchen floor, laid sand, hardcore, concrete slab, damp proof membrane and insulation. We also priced up windows for this house and another one that we are extending locally for someone else.

I know exactly how much a house costs to put back together and I've got every bill for the last 10 years to prove it. So whatever.

I don't know everything but what constitutes a garage conversion is pretty far down the list of what I understand these days and I won't be told otherwise by you.

shane42

calm down
you dont understand , thats fine.

sunshinetours

shane42 wrote: »

so a good diy er could do
the electrics with a part p and EIC?
the brick work ?
the window that needs to be signed of by a fensa registered co?
the plastering to a quality finnish?

LOL - don't think I will get into this one as your other posts to Doozergirl have shown your level of posting but suffice to say a bulk of the work involved including some of the above you have mentioned could yes indeed be done by a competent DIYer

A garage conversion is not rocket science - the bricking up at the front is pretty minimal and often the rest of the internals will be framed out and plaster board finished, none of which is hard to do, just costly from a labour point of view

I do however agree that things like the plaster finish are areas where someone who isn't confident, probably would be better spending their money for a professional.

Times are hard for builders currently and people everywhere are looking for ways they can minimise the amounts they pay to otehrsto do things they can learn to do themselves. I hope work picks up for you, as I assume you are in the building game

sunshinetours

shane42 wrote: »

a poor quality conversion is probably worth less than a standard garage.

I totally agree with that

shane42

iam doing well enough to not have to be on the tools anymore, thanks for asking