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Weezl and friends Phase 2 -giving it a whirl for Shirl! Testing meal plan for a month

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  • weezl74
    weezl74 Posts: 8,701 Forumite
    HowlinWolf wrote: »
    Thursday or Friday is fine with me. What are we chatting on (apple user so if MSN will need to download in preparation).
    yes! Good question!

    does anyone know if facebook allows multiple chat users simultaneously?

    :hello:Jonathan 'Fergie' Fergus William, born 05/03/09, 7lb 4.4oz:hello:
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  • Sian_the_Green
    Sian_the_Green Posts: 1,584 Forumite
    weezl74 wrote: »

    weds eve 7.45 pm No, sorry

    saturday 2 pm or 7 pm No, sorry

    sunday 3 pm? Definitely best for me
    weezl74 wrote: »

    some FYI points from weezl that are too exciting/secret to share online (this now sounds approximately 1674 times more exciting than it actually is, sorry :D

    Dont tell us youve got another bun in the oven ;)
    God is good, all the time
    Do something that scares you every day
  • weezl74
    weezl74 Posts: 8,701 Forumite
    Dont tell us youve got another bun in the oven ;)
    poor Mr Weezl would have a heart attack! :eek::D

    :hello:Jonathan 'Fergie' Fergus William, born 05/03/09, 7lb 4.4oz:hello:
    :)Benjamin 'Kezzie' Kester Jacob, born 18/03/10, 7lb 5oz:)
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    january grocery challenge, feed 4 of us for £40
  • weezl74
    weezl74 Posts: 8,701 Forumite
    aless, do you think any of the shots of recipes off the website would be good to have in the photos section of the CFR facebook pages?

    Was thinking it might lure folk in?

    or maybe they'l have just clicked on the site....

    Hmmmn

    :hello:Jonathan 'Fergie' Fergus William, born 05/03/09, 7lb 4.4oz:hello:
    :)Benjamin 'Kezzie' Kester Jacob, born 18/03/10, 7lb 5oz:)
    cash neutral gifts 2011, value of purchased gifts/actual paid/amount earnt to cover it £67/£3.60/£0
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  • Bigjenny
    Bigjenny Posts: 601 Forumite
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    weezl74 wrote: »
    morag/aless/anyone who thought 'recipes' should contain all shirley's recipes, all kitty's and all our enticing shirley in recipes (approximately 100-150 in total). I like your idea, but as with everything with a website, it creates other quandries we must work round.:)

    Please can you have a think about the following quandry:

    there would be 2/3 very similar but not identical versions of the same recipe, which would be confusing?

    ie if you went for the first time to a website for recipes and their index looked like this, would it not be a bit strange:

    breakfast pancakes
    breakfast pancakes (2)
    breakfast pancakes (3)


    to me, that seems as though we made it, thought it was a bit rubbish, so had another go! Which isn't what we're saying!

    Also how does the user know which of them to pick?

    quandry 2:

    150 rows of recipes will look very daunting all shown at once and would mean A LOT of horizontal scrolling. Will the user get daunted and immediately bounce away?

    (long contents pages have been shown to create an immediate 'bounce' away from the page. Caused by option paralysis.)


    I'd very much appreciate as many people's thoughts as poss before I decide which way to go :)



    Don't know if this would work, but how about having the basic recipe and then at the bottom of the page just add the "variations".

    Many cookbooks do this.

    Hope this makes sense
    "When one door closes another door opens; but we so often look so long and so regretfully upon the closed door, that we do not see the ones which open for us" Alexander Graham Bell
  • Sian_the_Green
    Sian_the_Green Posts: 1,584 Forumite
    edited 20 June 2010 at 3:59PM
    Bigjenny wrote: »
    Don't know if this would work, but how about having the basic recipe and then at the bottom of the page just add "variations" suggestions.

    Many cookbooks do this.

    I agree with this. I have a muffin recipe book that claims to have 900 recipes but really there are a lot fewer and many varieties of each. So you could have the basic recipe and then within it you could have a sub section below with any options/variations. They are also arranged by theme, could you do the same? Having a separate page sounds like hard work but even grouping the recipes under headings like breakfasts, lunches, dinners, snacks might make it seem less overwhelming
    God is good, all the time
    Do something that scares you every day
  • weezl74
    weezl74 Posts: 8,701 Forumite
    I agree with this. I have a muffin recipe book that claims to have 900 recipes but really there are about 300 and 3 varieties of each. So you could have the basic recipe and then within it you could have a sub section below with any options/variations
    this is good unless that's the way shirl has to then find 'her' version, IYSWIM, like she should just be able to click pancakes on her planner and go straight to her pancakes shouldn't she?

    but yes I think I'm with you both, just thinking about the technicalities!

    What about there being such a huge index, what would people be thinking about that?

    Have a look at some other recipe websites if you like for inspiration :)

    :hello:Jonathan 'Fergie' Fergus William, born 05/03/09, 7lb 4.4oz:hello:
    :)Benjamin 'Kezzie' Kester Jacob, born 18/03/10, 7lb 5oz:)
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    january grocery challenge, feed 4 of us for £40
  • Allegra
    Allegra Posts: 1,517 Forumite
    I know I am totally against the flow on this one, which is why I kept quiet about it since people made it clear that they do not feel the same - but I really do feel it's got to be "Planner Recipes" (with separate links for planner 1 and planner 2) and "Other recipes".

    I do fully understand what people are saying when they say it has to all be one list of recipes - but I feel that this then loses track of the very important aspect of the website - that it is so much more than just a recipe website; that it's a plan and a shopping list and nutrition all worked out, and zero wastage, and all on £100 a month.

    Yes, other websites would all have an index of all the recipes they contain - but other websites are just recipe websites. This has to, by definition, be different, because no one has ever done anything like this before.

    As I said already, I know I view things a bit differently to other people, so the majority view has to win (and that's rarely mine, lol) - but the concept, and the execution, of this website, has come from someone viewing things a bit differently to most people - if things are never viewed from a previously unexplored vantage point, then status quo will never change.... And I'll shut up about it now, I promise - I just had to get it off my chest :) Now it can all be turned over to more sensible, more normal people.

    Oh, and in case anyone was really worried about Amy and the Tardis, I've just read that Karen Gillan is filiming the Christmas special and the next series, so I guess we should all be looking forward to a hat full of rabbits next week ! Sorry, I had to get that off my chest, too. :o
  • Hippeechiq
    Hippeechiq Posts: 1,103 Forumite
    Julimk wrote: »
    DD made the bread & doughnuts today - Anyway, if an 11-year old child can follow the recipe I don’t think you need to worry too much about Shirl.

    I feel a bit of a pleb having to ask this if an 11year old can work it out :o but anyway, does anyone know exactly how much yeast I would need to make just one loaf? and do you need a damp tea towel or anything to cover bread when it's proving? I have the bread flour, I have the yeast, but I don't have the mental agility to understand the comment of: "always use at least 10g yeast even if you reduce all the other quantities".

    If I'm quartering the recipe, will the bread not be overly yeasty, given that were I to make the full recipe it would work out at 3.75g of yeast each loaf?

    Sorry to be dense - it's been a tough couple of weeks :( and I really would like to have a go at the bread.

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  • Sian_the_Green
    Sian_the_Green Posts: 1,584 Forumite
    Hippeechiq wrote: »
    I feel a bit of a pleb having to ask this if an 11year old can work it out :o but anyway, does anyone know exactly how much yeast I would need to make just one loaf? and do you need a damp tea towel or anything to cover bread when it's proving? I have the bread flour, I have the yeast, but I don't have the mental agility to understand the comment of: "always use at least 10g yeast even if you reduce all the other quantities".

    If I'm quartering the recipe, will the bread not be overly yeasty, given that were I to make the full recipe it would work out at 3.75g of yeast each loaf?

    Sorry to be dense - it's been a tough couple of weeks :( and I really would like to have a go at the bread.

    Gas Mark 1 = 140C 275F

    Not a stupid question at all. Because yeast is "alive" you need a certain amount of it to kick it off. I would say 2 tsp for one loaf would be fine. Depending on the type of yeast you either mix it with the water and let it foam up or stir it in with the flour. You wont taste it at that amount, HTH
    God is good, all the time
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