Weezl and friends Phase 2 -giving it a whirl for Shirl! Testing meal plan for a month

artybear

Sian_the_Green wrote: »

Your poor mother

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Scintillans

Weezl, please try hard not to worry too much about Fergie's speech. We have an 18 month gap between DS1 and DS2 and needed help from the speech therapist as DS1 was very slow to develop. I used to take his brother along to the sessions which resulted in them learning to talk at about the same time. In fact DS2 often used to correct what his brother had said and could maintain detailed conversations by the time he was a year old. When DS3 came along and was mega slow to say anything apart from "No!" I tried not to panic but admit to being mightily relieved when one bath time just before his third birthday out of the blue he said " I don't like the pyjamas with the stripes, I want the blue ones". DH still insists he had nothing to complain about prior to this and saw no point in talking!

Motherhood is full of angst, you worry about them not talking and then when they all insist on talking at the same time or ask endless questions you are happy when it's bedtime and they stop!

Your boys will be fine.

Sian_the_Green

aless02 wrote: »

Cheeky! I'm fairly certain I don't need to explain myself.

Sorry Potty, couldnt resist!

Allegra

Weezl, I think everyone who points out that Fergie is still too tiny for you to be overly concerned about any possible developmental delay, and that children (and adults!) all develop at different rates is absolutely right.

However, as a mother of a disabled child (autism), I do think that it's also important to point out that if a developmental delay is present, for whatever reason, it a) isn't the end of the world, and b) the sooner this is spotted and addressed, the better for the young man

And while it is perfectly normal and understandable to feel sad and upset - grieved, even - that our child isn't quite what we expected and hoped for, it is also important to work our way through this sadness and see the positives and rewards that every unexpected opportunity brings with them. I mean, remember when you told us what an intense person you are and how you worry you might overwhelm the boys by your intensity ? Well, who better to be gifted with a child who needs intense interaction and input in order to make the best of his own particular gifts and grasp his own life with both chubby fists ?

Another thing for you to perhaps look into sometime, if it turns out that it's necessary - I recall that you, like me, have an overactive immune system (anaphylaxis caused by a foodstuff, IIRC), and I also seem to recall that Fergie has/had digestive system issues - my whole family suffers with immune system unpredictability (even autism is now believed to be connected with it to some extent), and - this is why I always bang about about "healthy" being an individual thing, diet-wise - it may be quite possible that Fergie reacts to some, universally accepted healthy foods, in an unhealthy way.

You may recall that it was impossible for my DD to join in with Shirl's plan as she has quite a specialised diet - this is largely the reason. Her disability and developmental issues only tend to come to the fore when she eats what are, for her, wrong sort of foods. This includes such known baddies as MSG, E numbers and aspartame - but also known goodies such as gluten and caseine (which she can have in moderation - some people can not have them at all though).

If there is anything at all you want to ask me or talk about privately, you have my email - I'd happily give you my phone number, too, if it wasn't for the fact that I am somewhat phobic about phones and can not cope very well with phone conversations

artybear

Weezl-Mr arty says that to view his experiment you will need.

Python 2.6
easyinstall
pulp 1.4.7
maybe programmers notepad 2

And he says he could email it to you or maybe more easily if you opened a dropbox account you can have shared folders.

He says that later (when he has got out of his pit), he will put up the links for those if you cant find them.

Is that ok?

xxx

weezl74

pinkhayley789 wrote: »

Weezl,

I have just been doing a bit of work on the Alternatives Guide this evening but am a little unsure how you wanted it setting out. Did you envisage a list of alternatives for planner 1 followed by a second list for planner 3? Please let me know how you would want it setting out. Thank you.


P.S. It is not far from finished now

yay for it being so well developed!

I think at this stage it would be best split into 2 articles, one relevant to planner 1 and one relevant to kitty, with a simple 'cut and paste' into the second one of any info that is relevant to both (ie turn the porridge into flapjack), so that it can be linked to from the bottom of shirl's/kitty's planner and be relevant for the table of meal plans they have just looked at, IYSWIM? How does that sound?

SusanC wrote: »

Is nine stone not underweight? It is for 5'8".

I wondered that! Also arty it's not unusual to still gain even an inch of height at 18/19 as a girl, so you may have still been growing IYSWIM? I dunno, obviously you know what suits you and your body, but I think 9st sounds far too little, and I'm not quite sure where your mum is coming from on that . However, nailing my colours to the mast, I think rounded shapes are more pleasing than lines and squares, so I would always love a nigella lawson over a victoria beckham

nopot2pin wrote: »

Ditto

Also a small word on the sat fats for WW, that I learned....
If the sat fats aren't listed, half the fats and use that as the sat fats ..
Hope that helps....

Tis a good tip potty

What I would add tho is that as the sat fats are very low in most of the main meals, you might end up with a falsely 'high' number of points if you calculated it that way, leaving you with fewer points to spend on other foods, so well worth looking at the actual sat fats figure whaen we have a chance

Allegra, thank you for your wise and thoughtful post.

I was aware as I wrote that it might make you think about your situation with DD, and I'm sorry if I didn't word it right (not that you've said that, I was just very conscious of it).

domesticgoddess789

weezl74 wrote: »

yay for it being so well developed!

I think at this stage it would be best split into 2 articles, one relevant to planner 1 and one relevant to kitty, with a simple 'cut and paste' into the second one of any info that is relevant to both (ie turn the porridge into flapjack), so that it can be linked to from the bottom of shirl's/kitty's planner and be relevant for the table of meal plans they have just looked at, IYSWIM? How does that sound?

That sounds exactly how I have done it but just wanted to check we were thinking along the same lines! Thank you for confirming that

Allegra

weezl74 wrote: »

I was aware as I wrote that it might make you think about your situation with DD, and I'm sorry if I didn't word it right (not that you've said that, I was just very conscious of it).

Naaaah, no worries, Weezlie

Allegra

weezl74 wrote: »

I wondered that! Also arty it's not unusual to still gain even an inch of height at 18/19 as a girl, so you may have still been growing IYSWIM? I dunno, obviously you know what suits you and your body, but I think 9st sounds far too little, and I'm not quite sure where your mum is coming from on that . However, nailing my colours to the mast, I think rounded shapes are more pleasing than lines and squares, so I would always love a nigella lawson over a victoria beckham

Oh, and I'm totally with you there. Arty, your mum sounds rather like mine. I love her to bits, she's funny, she's a character, she can be wise when she wants to.... But the healthiest thing for me is to live 1000 miles away from her and see her as little as possible. We get on much, much better that way.

I'll also tell you a slightly funny story (well, it's slightly funny to me, sense of humour is an individual thing after all, innit). I struggled with my weight most of my teens and twenties. There never was much to struggle with, I know that now, but I still did it because I believed that struggle I ought to, because everyone else did. Of course, me being me, I could not be any less than thorough in anything I did, so I developed an eating disorder to boot.

Fast forward a few years - in fact, to the period comemorated by a dear friend who tagged me on her pics of a night out in Brighton, so they can be seen on my FB profile - and I was the heaviest I'd ever been (14st). And yeah, now I look at those pics, p'raps I was a teeny bit porky. Thing is, it was getting ready to go out that night that I looked in the mirror for the first time and liked what I saw. And thought - yeah, the number on the scales seems huge, I will never be a model again, but I am not deformed, I can still pass ok for an ageing bird

And once I have finally accepted myself and my weight without any reservations.... My relarionship with food improved massively and I lost a stone without any effort, without even meaning to. And now I really like how I look

My point ? Not sure I have one, just something to think about, for me as much as for anyone else. Cos I do worry when I see young girls obsessing about their weight, especially when I really believe they do not need to. And last night I had a phonecall from one of DD's friends' mum telling me that her daughter is worried about my DD because she has been skipping lunch and telling everyone she is on a diet.... Argh.

weezl74

dear team (including as many lurkers as I can drag out of hiding!!!)


if you had to make an assessment of the site as either 'give a shirl a fish and feed her for a day' or teach her to fish so she's fed for life, how would you rate it currently?

ie 80% giving a fish/20% teaching to fish

I'm aware we can't give shirl her lightbulb, I just want to make sure we aren't colluding with her never having her LBM.