Variation of Payment (Non-Resident Father, Child Overseas)

Alias_Omega

Honest_broker07 wrote: »

The Child Support Agency can usually only deal with an application for child maintenance when both parents and the child live in the UK.

The only exceptions to this are when the non-resident parent:

• is working abroad in the service of the crown, for example, is a civil servant or works within Her Majesty's diplomatic service or within Her Majesty's overseas civil service
• is a member of the Armed Forces
• works abroad for a UK based company, for example, it employs people to work outside the UK but makes payments via a UK payroll; and the company is registered under the Companies Act 1985 (England, Wales and Scotland) or the Companies (Northern Ireland) Order 1986
• works abroad on secondment for a prescribed body, for example, from an NHS trust, regional health authority, primary care trust or local authority.

You are the resident parents ?

the exceptions are for NRP

if the NRP is also in foreign parts CSA still won't apply

Thats interesting, though we are covered through the REMO system. Mrs Alias is asleep on the sofa atm, so wont be able to get all the links.

There is one in the favorites which is this one, which says as the same as the csa site, but we are covered.

Its weird, as we receive child benefits, tax credits, and pay NI & UK Tax. So should be able to receive CSA Payments too..


Anyway, back to the original question.

chriszzz

Alias_Omega wrote: »

hi chris,

No need to worry, he gave his verbal concent for her to move overseas with us.

This type of thread always turns into a bashing thread, maybe its because its the NRP's that are always trolling the section. We were just asking for advice.

Alias

Aliias Omega at the end of the day we all want fairness in our lives wether we are the PWC, NRP, NNRP or Child/ren and because there doesn't appear to be a balanced family system in this country then it will always be a bashing discussion when talking about all the above.

Dont take anything I say personally ,as it is only my opinion and we all have different opinions.

kelloggs36

how often does he visit?

AnxiousMum

AliasOmega - I too am a parent who 'took my children overseas' from Canada to the UK. Their father remains in Canada. However, we had previously moved to the other side of the country before coming here, and the kids were a 7 hour flight away from their dad. That move was due to a work relocation of my new partner, and we had been living as a family for about two years by that time. He had no choice in the transfer.

So am I the bad parent here taking my children away? Or......what about the loving, caring dad who stood on our doorstep and made comments at first like 'I don't see why you don't just let him go, and you can stay here and care for the kdis like you always have done', and later, after refusing to break up the current family, another comment like 'well, they can go to the other side of the country, as long as I don't have to pay child support and can get on with my life'. I lost all respect for him as a parent at that point - and 'bought' the kids.......till I learnt on the other side of the country that it wasn't within my rights to give up child support. Had he said he would fight for the kids through court to gain custody of them, I would've had so much more respect for him as a parent - but he never did want that did he?

Sometimes, just sometimes, you guys need to keep your mouths shut on your personal opinions before assuming you know the entire situation - all these comments about 'you chose to move overseas', 'imagine how the NRP feels having his child removed from the country' etc.........don't be so judgemental on people - if you want to pass judgement, ask the right questions first so at least you can put your judgement in it's right perspectve.

To the OP - you'll get alot better treatment through REMO than what I hear on here of the CSA anyway

speedster

verbal consent or not, if it was me i wouldn't dream of claiming monies if i had chosen to take the child/ren out of the country.

but hey. horses for courses and all that.......

to the original question, is he paying direct to you by DD or through csa? if through csa on a DD then they'll just take what they like.

variation will have to be looked at and if unsucessful then any underpayment will accrue arrears. if the nrp is PAYE, then the chimps will just slap a DEO on him.

AnxiousMum

speedster wrote: »

verbal consent or not, if it was me i wouldn't dream of claiming monies if i had chosen to take the child/ren out of the country.

but hey. horses for courses and all that.......

I'd like to think if I were an NRP that I wouldn't dream of doing half the stuff some of them do as well.......but hey, horses for courses and all that.....

Unfortunately though Speedster, my ex was quite clear, he wanted to get on with his life, which didn't include wanting to have his children live with him - and I'm not foolish enough to take on the whole financial responsibility myself, not when there are laws there to protect resident parents from having to just that.

speedster

AnxiousMum wrote: »

I'd like to think if I were an NRP that I wouldn't dream of doing half the stuff some of them do as well.......but hey, horses for courses and all that.....

Unfortunately though Speedster, my ex was quite clear, he wanted to get on with his life, which didn't include wanting to have his children live with him - and I'm not foolish enough to take on the whole financial responsibility myself, not when there are laws there to protect resident parents from having to just that.

yeah, but your ex is an idiot.

AnxiousMum

haha, yep - got that one right - but he did make two absolutely wonderful kids who I'm damned proud to have raised to be the people they are

chriszzz

AnxiousMum wrote: »

AliasOmega - I too am a parent who 'took my children overseas' from Canada to the UK. Their father remains in Canada. However, we had previously moved to the other side of the country before coming here, and the kids were a 7 hour flight away from their dad. That move was due to a work relocation of my new partner, and we had been living as a family for about two years by that time. He had no choice in the transfer.

So am I the bad parent here taking my children away? Or......what about the loving, caring dad who stood on our doorstep and made comments at first like 'I don't see why you don't just let him go, and you can stay here and care for the kdis like you always have done', and later, after refusing to break up the current family, another comment like 'well, they can go to the other side of the country, as long as I don't have to pay child support and can get on with my life'. I lost all respect for him as a parent at that point - and 'bought' the kids.......till I learnt on the other side of the country that it wasn't within my rights to give up child support. Had he said he would fight for the kids through court to gain custody of them, I would've had so much more respect for him as a parent - but he never did want that did he?

Sometimes, just sometimes, you guys need to keep your mouths shut on your personal opinions before assuming you know the entire situation - all these comments about 'you chose to move overseas', 'imagine how the NRP feels having his child removed from the country' etc.........don't be so judgemental on people - if you want to pass judgement, ask the right questions first so at least you can put your judgement in it's right perspectve.

To the OP - you'll get alot better treatment through REMO than what I hear on here of the CSA anyway

But this thread isint about you and your ex and how he basically wasn't interested in where you took your kids as long as he didn't have to pay maintenance.
Its about an enquiry for child maintenance and a variation for a NRP for travel costs to have contact with his child. Not all NRPs are like yours so dont try and tarnish them with the same brush, as this thread says nothing about the NRP not wanting contact.
As for knowing the entire situation, well I think we can both agree that you will never know the entire situation on any one thread, you only go on what they say, and there was no indication that the NRP in this case wanted no contact with the child.
As for opinions, people give their opinions daily, you do, I do without even thinking about it but at least I will say its an opinion and that's all it is, as I believe where all entitled to them, so I will ignore your request for some to keep their mouths shut. The OP might not have agreed with my opinion and he had every right to let me know but wont take it from someone who I was not referring to

AnxiousMum

I was simply 'giving my opinion', as did you, on the posters who thought it right to put the OP down for taking the child out of the country......as for your 'don't tarnish them with the same brush' in reference to NRP's......same goes for PWC's......don't tarnish them all with the same brush - children removed or what!