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Memory_Girl

Karmacal - I could have written that post hon!!!

FW has been encouraging me to develop Memes - ready for implementation and automation - and I finding my creative groove is, well really grooving:D

But going back into the book on Friday - I realised I need to get a handle on the Elimination part. WHat is holding me here is all the STUFF!!! I say I'm going to have a car-boot, but maybe I should just take to the CS and be done.

Ssshhh!!! Don't tell anyone, but my secret dream is to be able to take both boys travelling all of next year - visiting all sorts of cool, passionate people in Universities, Businesses, Projects who are doing what makes their hearts sing. Showig them how important having a passion is.

YES!!! A year of having my boys "World Educated" - - but this house is WAAAAAYYYYY far from being able to let out. And my Memes are not ready to let out solo either.

Time to grab some physical and metaphorical bin bags I think.:cool: Space first, time second and get the goals underway.

MG

Marru

I am glad you are enjoying your time in Sweden. It is my neighbouring country so makes me feel quite proud

For me my work is not my life, however it does take a huge part out of it and even bigger part of my energy. So I have two options of making my life for my work:

1) Find a way to get maximum output with minimum input from my present work or work that utilises my skills from my present work

2) Find a way to turn my passion into my work and that way it is not really work anymore

I think it will be a combination of the two but as Karmacat said it is not something that will be possible to do over night. BUT at least I know I am going into right direction because I am aware of where I want to be.

Karmacat

Cheri, I always thought that Mothering Sunday **originated** for girls in service who got one day off a year (in the days when they just got an afternoon off once a week, and worked the other 6.5 days) so they could trek back to the village of their birth and see their mothers. As it is now, I agree, its a wholly commercial thing.

MrsMoo2U

Karmacat wrote: »

Cheri, I always thought that Mothering Sunday **originated** for girls in service who got one day off a year (in the days when they just got an afternoon off once a week, and worked the other 6.5 days) so they could trek back to the village of their birth and see their mothers. As it is now, I agree, its a wholly commercial thing.

I never knew that but I would expect that this was the original reason as it makes sense. Similar to Valentines Day originally being about celebrating love on a Saints day but you are right, like everything else, including Christmas and Easter, things get lost in the commercialism of it all. People lose the true meaning and just feel pressure to keep up with everything.

I dont have my Mum anymore so it kind of puts things into perspective for me a little more. Especially as I dont have children either so I can see things from the wider view now without all of the guilt that goes with it.

Karmacat

Memory_Girl wrote: »

Karmacal - I could have written that post hon!!!

:hello: Hiya! I'm glad - it means I'm on the right track then

FW has been encouraging me to develop Memes - ready for implementation and automation - and I finding my creative groove is, well really grooving:D
Sounds good! But truthfully, I don't even know that word :oand I thought I was pretty up on words :o:o

But going back into the book on Friday - I realised I need to get a handle on the Elimination part. WHat is holding me here is all the STUFF!!! I say I'm going to have a car-boot, but maybe I should just take to the CS and be done.

Well, you have the year, if you're planning to travel next year (which sounds fantastic btw :j:j:j) but only if you focus it - I was very distracted when I was moving, and getting rid of some really big things came down to the weekend before I moved, which was ridiculous.

Ssshhh!!! Don't tell anyone, but my secret dream is to be able to take both boys travelling all of next year - visiting all sorts of cool, passionate people in Universities, Businesses, Projects who are doing what makes their hearts sing. Showig them how important having a passion is.

YES!!! A year of having my boys "World Educated" - - but this house is WAAAAAYYYYY far from being able to let out. And my Memes are not ready to let out solo either.

Time to grab some physical and metaphorical bin bags I think.:cool: Space first, time second and get the goals underway.

MG

I love it! That sounds like a fantastic opportunity for you all. And your summary is priceless: space first, time second, and get the goals underway. Thats actually the whole book

Marru wrote: »

I am glad you are enjoying your time in Sweden. It is my neighbouring country so makes me feel quite proud

For me my work is not my life, however it does take a huge part out of it and even bigger part of my energy. So I have two options of making my life for my work:

1) Find a way to get maximum output with minimum input from my present work or work that utilises my skills from my present work

2) Find a way to turn my passion into my work and that way it is not really work anymore

I think it will be a combination of the two but as Karmacat said it is not something that will be possible to do over night. BUT at least I know I am going into right direction because I am aware of where I want to be.

A combination has to be the way forward, doesn't it - its like anything - we want variety! I'm well known on my diary for loving pesto - but I don't want pesto at every meal. Same thing, even if my work, whatever it is that brings my income, is 100% enjoyable, thats not all I want to do with my life, I want my enjoyment to come from many sources.






EDIT - Cheri, yes, once you step back and have a look at the wider picture, it really stands out. I was queuing in a little coop yesterday (fantastic offer on toilet rolls, lol) and I was by all the "celebrity" mags - it was horrifying. People get conned into being like this, thinking that these things are important. Horrendous.

Firewalker

Hi guys. Wow! I go to breakfast, listen to a message from LB, read a text from Son Number Two (the soul of my sould he is) and find all these wonderful posts here. Thank you - now I need to think (which is fun) and start acting (which I find harder).

KC, yep - I have been acting on most of what you mentioned. But still have to do the elimination execise. I think it will be useful to write down what I would do if I am allowed two hours work a week, what are the five things I do when I really don't want to do something, and what will happen if I don't do something (this needs to be taken broader and think of effects on others as well). I did all exercises in the definition part and found them useful; my nightmares are deminished. My guess is that it is the process of writing - so just working the answers out will have a limited benefit. Big problem for me is the decluttering of the house - it is large and full of stuff we do not need, use or even want. Good opportunity for me to practice the haggling challenge - car boot sale I have never done and have been to only one.

Cheri, thank you. Just last night my clleagues here and I were discussing that we as academics and budding public intellectuals (willing ones) are very blessed to be doing exactly what we want to do most of the time. I love reading, thinking and writing; I was thinking that presenting (including lecturing) is a sublimation of my acting nature (I did loads of theater when younger but never became an actress - could not accept that I will have to follow the director); I love enabling learning, seeing a spark of interest awakening. What I dislike is the management, the way the British universities are going (and these elsewhere). As to the preparation - this the last domain of moaning I have left. It is fun but it can be very intense in my case because I thrive on total obssesion. As to passions and pensions, Tim says that retirement is the last resort.

MG, travelling is a great idea and I am sure that you are making it into a plan. When we stop being scared and accept that keeping our houses (particularly as they are full of suffocating stuff) lulls us into a false sense of security and keep us rigid the perspective changes. Do you realise that about 61% of the nation's wealth is tied up in property? And that this wealth is dead - it can't generate more wealth because this happens only through circulation? I suppose this is how it works in personal plan as well. We are thinking about spending three months in Sofia and a month in Italy next year; who knows we may need to spend more time in Sweden as well.

Maru, I have manu Finish friends and colleagues; in fact the colleague who shared the organisation of this workshop (and I have to admit did most of the day to day organisation including keeping me in order) is Finish. I love the North...I like Norway as well. As to your two points - yep! Very close to what I have been thinking. With one difference - I want to continue doing what I am doing but get out of the pressures of the organisation.

This is getting too long and it is time for a shower.

Firewalker

Aesop

Completely agree with Karmacat and Cherisong.

What should be special, family orientated days are wholly commercial!

I sat here yesterday feeling guilty as I only sent MIL a £10 M&S voucher - that I had earnt, so didn't pay with my cash and a half price card from funky pigeon, with free money. So, stupidly paid for a bunch of flowers to be sent to her - that cost me money, but I did go through a cashback site, and used a discount code, so isn't costing me as much.

But why do I feel guilty? If I can't afford it, why do I have to send her expensive gifts? That is not what Mothering Sunday is about. Then her birthday, wedding anniversary, christmas, etc.

Firewalker

Aesop wrote: »

But why do I feel guilty? If I can't afford it, why do I have to send her expensive gifts? That is not what Mothering Sunday is about. Then her birthday, wedding anniversary, christmas, etc.

Aesop, it might be worth asking yourself why you send all these gifts. Is your MIL expecting gifts? Is this how she is used to measuring affection? Or is it you? Can you think of other ways to show respect (or for that matter your OH should - she is his mother after all) and are these going to be understood?

I do not expect gifts and never felt the ob kligation to buy my mum gifts. I always phoned her (but then I phone her regulary anyway).

BTW, today I got a text from my younger step-son (Son Number Two) that read: 'Happy Mother's Day, FW, and always remember that you have three sons who love you so much.' This is more that I wished for.

Firewalker

Aesop

FW, I am expected to send gifts to all his family! Including a daughter he does not speak to! We have a complicated relationship! But last christmas I made a point of sending christmas cards and a voucher and that was all. We didn't have the money for expensive gifts and the posting up by courier etc.

His family don't make the same effort, not that I feel they should, but I don't see why we need to spend money on expensive gifts for them, a card and a voucher is perfectly adequate. Especially with my SIL!

We don't see them much as they live in the North and we are in the South. And I think for DH it is always about the conversations they are having that we are not there, etc.

savingwannabe

I dont think your OH realises how many sacrifices you are making to enable them to have expensive presents. Maybe tally up how much it costs in a year and against it write how much you spend on things for each other?