From IB to ESA. Worried!!

NASA_2

ATOS do not have decision makers, they provide an assessment of someones condition and how it affects their ability to work, that then goes to the Departmental Decision Maker who can take into account the opinion of both ATOS and medical professionals at that point. Just needed to clear up your inaccuracy on that point.

Like I already said though, ATOS arent giving you a medical diagnoses, that is certainly the job of a GP. ATOS help a DM to decide benefit entitlement.

You of course have the right to appeal if you are found fit to work at the WCA.

As for killing yourself if you lose your benefits, that is your call, being someone that has tried suicide (And still think about trying it again on a fairly regular basis) in the past I certainly will not condemn you for it but I've heard it so many times before from benefit claimants who are still around jumping from benefit to benefit.

Prinzessilein

I would not be killing myself because I lost my benefits.

I would kill myself because I am physically and mentally incapable of looking for work, and would be forced into situation this because of a decision made against the medical advice of my GP and my specialist.

NASA_2

Prinzessilein wrote: »

I would not be killing myself because I lost my benefits.

I would kill myself because I am physically and mentally incapable of looking for work, and would be forced into situation this because of a decision made against the medical advice of my GP and my specialist.

Spin it whatever way you wish but you are effectively saying that if you lose your IB/ESA that you will top yourself. You seem to have made a very clear decision on this as a future course of action.

Please dont pretend that anyone has forced your hand though - it is solely your decision on whether you end your life - no-one elses. It will be you who is responsible for the grief of those who are left behind.

As yet this is all hypothetical though as you havent failed the medical yet.

healy

NASA wrote: »

Spin it whatever way you wish but you are effectively saying that if you lose your IB/ESA that you will top yourself. You seem to have made a very clear decision on this as a future course of action.

Please dont pretend that anyone has forced your hand though - it is solely your decision on whether you end your life - no-one elses. It will be you who is responsible for the grief of those who are left behind.

As yet this is all hypothetical though as you havent failed the medical yet.

I read it the same way as you did NASA and agree with what you have said.

I have read about these threats from claimants for years and the threat is rarely if ever carried out.

Prinzessilein

My comment was not 'a threat'. It was a simple statement of fact.

And yes, this is all hypothetical at the moment. Yet, I, and others, live in such fear of the process that it affects my everyday life. I have no idea when/if I will be called for one of these interviews. This does not stop me worrying/panicking about it to the point of physical sickness.

I'm having a really rough day today, physically and mentally. (Not connected with medical interviews! I have to move house and any form of change drains me physically and emotionally). The content of my post should perhaps have given an indication of that.

My ASD means that I have a tendency to misinterpret other people's comments. I am going to assume that the responses made to my post were made either in an attempt to be helpful, or to simply further a discussion, and were not meant to be as harsh and lacking in compassion as they appear to me.

healy

Prinzessilein wrote: »

My comment was not 'a threat'. It was a simple statement of fact.

And yes, this is all hypothetical at the moment. Yet, I, and others, live in such fear of the process that it affects my everyday life. I have no idea when/if I will be called for one of these interviews. This does not stop me worrying/panicking about it to the point of physical sickness.

I'm having a really rough day today, physically and mentally. (Not connected with medical interviews! I have to move house and any form of change drains me physically and emotionally). The content of my post should perhaps have given an indication of that.

My ASD means that I have a tendency to misinterpret other people's comments. I am going to assume that the responses made to my post were made either in an attempt to be helpful, or to simply further a discussion, and were not meant to be as harsh and lacking in compassion as they appear to me.

It will not be a fact until it has happened.

I just based my answer on what I have read and experienced.

NASA_2

Prinzessilein wrote: »

My comment was not 'a threat'. It was a simple statement of fact.

And yes, this is all hypothetical at the moment. Yet, I, and others, live in such fear of the process that it affects my everyday life. I have no idea when/if I will be called for one of these interviews. This does not stop me worrying/panicking about it to the point of physical sickness.

I'm having a really rough day today, physically and mentally. (Not connected with medical interviews! I have to move house and any form of change drains me physically and emotionally). The content of my post should perhaps have given an indication of that.

My ASD means that I have a tendency to misinterpret other people's comments. I am going to assume that the responses made to my post were made either in an attempt to be helpful, or to simply further a discussion, and were not meant to be as harsh and lacking in compassion as they appear to me.

Well, for my part, I didnt say it was a threat but I know that others have said such things and not followed through on it. They have said it for some reason known only to themselves and never followed through on it.

You know what though? I live in fear of !!!! every day of my life too. My life is by no means simple or straightforward. Benefit claimants arent the only group of people out there that have been dealt a !!!! hand in life (Although some choose to be benefit claimants) so excuse me if my replies seem to lack compassion. If you kill yourself then fair enough. Its was your wish to do so and you followed through on it. At least no-one can say it was an idle threat so you'll have proved them wrong.

Had a bad day? So does everyone else - worried about benefit entitlement or not. Consult your GP regarding your suicidal thoughts, perhaps they can recomment some counselling for you, CBT is an awesome tool in the theraputic bag. Unless you dont want to help yourself and are resigned to dying because your benefit is stopped.