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Do I need to pay for empty property?

Hi,

I have left my house in December 2008 and told my water compnay United Utilites that I was not living there any more and that the house was up for sale and it was unfurnished. They said I didn't need to pay. Aso of the 17th March 2010 there is a bill address to the occupier for amount of £759.53 which includes brought forward balance of £433.16 from previous year.

My question is do I need to worry about this as it is not address to me (eg. The Occupier), also should I contact United Utilities.

My property is not metered, so are these charges automated and will drop off once a new owner lives in the property?

Just a bit concern as I didn't expect a bill for £759.53 when I haven't lived in teh property since Dec 2008.

Comments

  • Somerset
    Somerset Posts: 3,636 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    Did you/do you own the property ?
  • STBJohnny
    STBJohnny Posts: 13 Forumite
    Yes I still own the property and its still on the market to be sold. No one has lived in the property since Dec 2008.
  • macman
    macman Posts: 53,129 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    From their website:

    If a property is both empty
    and unfurnished, no water
    charges are payable. If you
    are not going to be living in
    your property for some time, you can have your water
    supply temporarily disconnected and avoid paying
    charges whilst you are away. We make a charge to
    reconnect the water supply. We need at least 14 days
    notice. You will remain responsible for charges (including
    any fixed or standing charges) until the water supply is
    disconnected.
    However, if the property remains furnished while you are
    away, surface water and highway drainage charges are still payable

    You will normally be liable for council tax after 6 moths exemption for non-occupation though.
    No free lunch, and no free laptop ;)
  • STBJohnny
    STBJohnny Posts: 13 Forumite
    I see, so it looks like i'm not liable for this charge as the bill is not addressed to me anymore. Also I told them at the time that it was unfurnished.

    Still seems strange why the water company still sends out bills to the address for charges when no one is living there and I told them this 15 months ago.
  • Gothicfairy
    Gothicfairy Posts: 3,060 Forumite
    You have told them 15 months ago but that does not mean someone else moved in and forgot to tell them > Or that you sold the property and didn't tell them.
    All companies send out Occupier letters to prompt any new tenants/ owners to contact them.

    Rule of thumb, if a bill is not in your name then it aint for you. Just throw them away as they will keep coming.
    There is a race of men that don't fit in; A race that can't stand still;
    So they break the hearts of kith and kin, and roam the world at will.

    Robert Service
  • STBJohnny
    STBJohnny Posts: 13 Forumite
    I guess your right Gothicfairy. Companies do seem to send these Occupier letters all the time and like you said, it's not in my name. Will throw this away and not worry about it. Thanks for your help
  • macman
    macman Posts: 53,129 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    I would re-inform them that the property remains vacant and unfurnished-then continue to do so once a year until the situation changes.
    No free lunch, and no free laptop ;)
  • deanos
    deanos Posts: 11,241 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Uniform Washer
    Dont ignore it ring them up and explain its still unoccupied
  • STBJohnny
    STBJohnny Posts: 13 Forumite
    I have noticed on the letter that it states the following:

    "If this property is now occupied/tenanted or has been bought recently, please contact us straight away to provide details.
    If this property is still empty you do not need to contact us until the owner or occupier changes."



    This means I shouldn't have to contact them as the owner or occupier has not changed.

    Do you agree?
  • deanos
    deanos Posts: 11,241 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Uniform Washer
    Yeah sounds right but personally i would contact them just in case it causes problems further down the line
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