Advice wanted - don't want to commit fraud

Mum2twins98

I disagree with most posts here of course you have to declare another person there... i know been there i met a nice man and i never wanted to move him in so he stayed a few nights here and there, i was taken and questioned by DWP for committing fraud someone had told them he was there didn't matter he was only there a few nights i am (well was ) a lone parent, so not he has moved in LEGALLY !
Be careful what you do either way i sat and explained i had two children i never wanted to move anyone in my home with my children till he got to know them.. that was that !

Jomo

redkev76 wrote: »

Some really foolish replies on this thread to be honest. The OP is asking a perfectly reasonable question and clearly by asking it she wants to clarify her position and is not trying to defraud anyone or do anything illegal.

The idea that someone should ask a partner to contribute to the bills because they stay once or twice a week or that she should have to report the person staying over is completely ridiculous and I think that those of you that have suggested this are well aware of that fact and are deliberatly scare mongering.

It is clear from the OP's post that the person involved is not part of the 'family unit' at this stage. It's a shame that people come on here to ask a sensible question and get judged by some of you.

Nobody has been judged here!!!! People have rightly stated that if on benefits you have to be careful about certain situations so that you don't find yourself compromising yourself. This is good advice!!

If you are in receipt of benefits you have to abide by certain rules. End of!

People may not like this fact but at the end of the day fraud is committed all the time and it would be far worse if rules weren't put in place.

ally18

Thanks to all who have commented on here, I didn't realise I was triggering a hornets nest but I genuinely do not want to make a mistake. I haven't gone through this before and do not know the ins and outs at present and you are told so many different things by different people. I think I will clarify the rules with the dwp anyway.

For information, it is purely ctc I claim as a single parent and the discount for council tax. I work full time and pay all my own bills which I want to continue because it is my home, no one elses.

Thanks again.

tamsin1982

is he named as paying council tax on a different property? surely that would be proof he lived at a different address?

Ambersuccubus

re: the 25% discount, it is quite correct that if he is named elsewhere, there is no way he could also be "charged" at yours, therefore him "visiting" would not affect this. If he is NOT named elsewhere (ie on the electoral roll), there may be issues, and it would be wise to clarify with your local council.

Further to the ltahaw rules, when I was assessing benefit, we looked at the overall "picture", although if you are "reported", you may well be asked to come for an interview to clarify the exact situation. "Nights" don't matter - the issues are more to do with "Do you cook together?" "Do you shop together?" "Do you do each other's laundry?" etc - ltahaw isn't about sex, it's about familial support (monetary AND non-monetary).
So if he's just popping over for a drink and a bit of "how's-your-father", and leaving first thing in the morning, you'd rarely fall foul...if you're cooking dinner for him 3 nights a week - well, that's more time than some official couples spend together in the working week...

ally18

Thankyou for making me laugh, Ambersuccubus, I love the 'bit of hows yr father' and for the info. No, there would be no cooking, shopping, washing etc, purely the saving of having the 1 1/2 hr drive back to his home place late at night occasionally.

Its enough to make you think twice of trying to have another relationship tbh though.

missmontana

Let us know what the DWP say when you speak to them!

I'm wondering what they would say if you have a friend or family member who spends alot of time at your place, not a bf or gf.

Tobiwan_Kenobi

ally18 wrote: »

Thanks to all who have commented on here, I didn't realise I was triggering a hornets nest but I genuinely do not want to make a mistake. I haven't gone through this before and do not know the ins and outs at present and you are told so many different things by different people. I think I will clarify the rules with the dwp anyway.

For information, it is purely ctc I claim as a single parent and the discount for council tax. I work full time and pay all my own bills which I want to continue because it is my home, no one elses.

Thanks again.

As I said earlier, you won't need to speak to DWP as you are not claiming any DWP benefits!

catz1ct

If your just claiming Single Person Discount this is nothing to do with the DWP, its purely dealt with by the council tax department of the local council.

I think theres a few people on here who don't know what they're talking about. Council Tax Benefit is nothing to do with Single Person Discount.

hermum

jamespir wrote: »

so do you charge one night stands then? :rotfl:

Isn't that then prostitution? If you do don't forget to resgister as self-employed for tax reasons.