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Going on strike whilst on probation

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  • hermum
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    If not all union members are going to strike why is it an issue to you? Will the union pay your rent/mortgage, bills etc if as a result of you striking you aren't offered a permanent contract? As you won't be told that was the reasoning behind letting you go, you could not only lose this job but also find it very difficult to get another one.
  • pinkshoes
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    tsimehC wrote: »
    I know the strike clearly doesn't concern me but the whole idea of an union is non-existent most of the time. I'll go on strike and see how it goes, if I get into trouble, I guess I've learnt my lesson.

    Why on earth are you striking if it doesn't concert you??

    Are you a man or a sheep?

    The whole point of a strike is standing up for something YOU believe in and that affects you, so it is pointless you going on this strike.

    If you really feel the need to support union members, then take a day of holiday. Personally I think you're an idiot if you strike and take the day unauthorised, and you would get very little sympathy should you lose your job over this.

    It's not like jobs are plentiful at the moment...
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  • It will not affect your probation

    If it does and you can prove it you can claim unlimited damages against the employer
    The World come on.....
  • dampsquib
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    hermum wrote: »
    If not all union members are going to strike why is it an issue to you? Will the union pay your rent/mortgage, bills etc if as a result of you striking you aren't offered a permanent contract? As you won't be told that was the reasoning behind letting you go, you could not only lose this job but also find it very difficult to get another one.
    On the other hand .... in years to come, when you still have Terms & Conditions that still have value, you may be glad that you helped repel the attack on terms which affected some of your colleagues now.
    Being on probation, it's a difficult time for you, so I'd talk to your Union Rep and get some support/advice. There will always be something though, that makes you think twice about striking: promotions, performance assessments, etc, etc. There's always safety in numbers, so if the majority of your colleagues are supporting the strike, hopefully you taking part wouldn't affect your probation.
    Many people confuse Public Servants with slavery. It's a shame that the government can't set an example of a good employer, rather than acting as a bad one.
    Someone commented the other day, that it was interesting that in the (virtually) nationalised banks, managers bonuses had to be honoured due to contractual obligations, but when it came to their own workers, the government was happy to tear up the Terms & Conditions and impose new ones!
  • jdturk
    jdturk Posts: 1,636 Forumite
    It will not affect your probation

    If it does and you can prove it you can claim unlimited damages against the employer


    As the OP has not worked for more than a year it would be fairly easy for an employer to get rid of him rightly or wrongly
    Always ask ACAS
  • Fridge3
    Fridge3 Posts: 9,246 Forumite
    tsimehC wrote: »
    I've been working for almost 6 months now and my probation period is coming to a close. However, I am in the PCS union and there will be a national strike on Wednesday which I feel I must go on as I didn't on the last one and felt I was letting down my union colleagues as well as been overloaded with work on the last strike day.

    My question is, can my employer use my strike action (which will count as a disciplinary and an unauthorised absence) against my probation and cause me to fail it as a result? Since I started work I've had no absences and have performed above the minimum requirements (not that there were many). I feel pressured to come in on Wednesday like before but this time I know that I'll be taken advantage of again and have more reason to join the strike even if it doesn't concern me that much.

    Thanks for any helpful insights in advance.
    Sounds like they're already moulding you into the militant sheep mentality. Advice - break free while you still have a brain that can think independently.

    Yes technically that is the case. However the reality is that those making the decision to appoint will be spineless bureaucrats who will choose to ignore the fact that you have unauthorised absence rather than create work for themselves. Talking of which be sure to vote here if you haven't already.:D
  • So you are concerned about letting down your lazy colleagues but not about your employer who has very recently offered you a job in the middle of an economic crisis? If I was your employer, I'd kick you out for failing your probation period. And I wouldn't count on your self-serving colleagues coming to your rescue.
  • Fridge3
    Fridge3 Posts: 9,246 Forumite
    dampsquib wrote: »
    On the other hand .... in years to come, when you still have Terms & Conditions that still have value, you may be glad that you helped repel the attack on terms which affected some of your colleagues now.
    Being on probation, it's a difficult time for you, so I'd talk to your Union Rep and get some support/advice. There will always be something though, that makes you think twice about striking: promotions, performance assessments, etc, etc. There's always safety in numbers, so if the majority of your colleagues are supporting the strike, hopefully you taking part wouldn't affect your probation.
    Yes.....only 20% of members voted to strike, actually having a job, not agreeing with PCS stance, confident your own position will stand up to scrutiny come the redundancies.....:silenced:
    dampsquib wrote: »
    Many people confuse Public Servants with slavery.
    :rotfl::rotfl:Nomination for post of the month.

    Alarmingly, about 30% probably think a full days work for a full days pay is slavery ...the same 30% that are like rats scurrying on a sinking ship now the gravy train has hit the buffers.
  • custardy
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    you cant be sacked for being on strike however you can be let go for pretty much anything for the first year
    TBH i always said at RM i wouldnt blame anyone for not striking in their first year
  • Strike or your job?

    Which is the most important to you?

    Therein lays your answer.
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