Sandringham dual flush cistern keeps running

peachespeaches

I have searched unsuccessfully for instructions. My Armitage Shanks Sandringham plus WC dual flush push button cistern keeps running. Its nothing to do with the ball !!!!, when the lid is taken off the cistern fills and stops. Put the lid back on, walk away and it seems fine, come back a few minutes later and its running again.

This is a new toilet and if I could get someone over today I could get it fixed, but it will be Monday. I am on a water meter, the WC is in the ensuite, and its annoying. I know its a simple adjustment, but I have no idea what to adjust. I suspect its the push button assembly that is maybe too high or low when the lid is put on, but i dont know what to do and cannot find a manual.

Has anyone got one and knows how to stop it?

1984ReturnsForReal_2

running from where?

In the bowl? overflow? in the cistern?

Colour_Republic

There are many different cisten inlet valves on the market today, all with different adjustments, not sure if you can post pictures on this site, but if so upload one.

things to look out for, is their any debris around the outlet valve stopping it from making a seal? how is the push button operated, does it work by air or is it mechanical? Do you have to unscrew the push button in order to remove cistern lid? if so don't over tighten

peachespeaches

It runs into the bowl. The overflow goes straight into the bowl.

peachespeaches

Colour_Republic wrote: »

There are many different cisten inlet valves on the market today, all with different adjustments, not sure if you can post pictures on this site, but if so upload one.

things to look out for, is their any debris around the outlet valve stopping it from making a seal? how is the push button operated, does it work by air or is it mechanical? Do you have to unscrew the push button in order to remove cistern lid? if so don't over tighten

Im not sure the outlet valve is visible or indeed what it looks like. Will try and get a picture, but have just remembered. I have another two of these same toilets in our house so I will look to see if the others are any different. You dont have to unscrew. The push button thing is a circle, half the circle is for short flush the other half for full flush. On the inside of the lid there is a plate that depresses the flush or a rod depending which side you push.

1984ReturnsForReal_2

peachespeaches wrote: »

It runs into the bowl. The overflow goes straight into the bowl.

If it goes from the overflow to the bowl the float is not set properly (bend the arm down (if metal) or extended the arm (if plastic) or the valve needs looking at (worn out washer or cone shaped plunger thingy).

If it doesnt go through the overflow it is the diaphragm that needs replacing which is inside the bottom of one of these under where the 2 black circles are. .

Its a thin piece of flexible material, you can cut one out of a similar material or buy one.

peachespeaches

Thanks but it doesnt look like that.

Colour_Republic

ohh I forgot - I can't post links because i'm new but all Armitage Shanks tech drawings are available from thebluebook co uk, it's the professional site for specifiers and installers, you normally have to get trade access but the information you need is on the public access side of the site. the instructions for your WC are on there, if you need any further details come back here and i'll get the info from the trade access side for you

1984ReturnsForReal_2

peachespeaches wrote: »

Thanks but it doesnt look like that.

Does it look like this?




or this?

Colour_Republic

http://www.thebluebook.co.uk/Installation/4151%20ub%20VALVE.pdf

seems I can post links now, this is the instructions for the inlet valves in the sandringham

elsien

And on a completely non-technical note, do you have another loo you could use in the meantime? Just thinking that if water consumption is a concern, and it stops running when you take the lid off, could you leave the lid off and use another toilet while you get the problem sorted?