Help! (I bent the rules in desperation)

Turning_into_scrooge

Penny-Pincher!! wrote:

YES...they WILL find out!! All the benefits are linked to your National Insurance number, so it is just a matter of time. You should be worried!

Sorry, but I have no sympathy for you. Do the crime...do the time!! What you did was illegal.

PP

I cannot understand how they have not already picked up on this as you say one national insurance number, unless there has been 2 used. The only place you are nearly but not guaranteed to get away with this is if you live on the boarder in Ireland. People have been known to claim benefits on both sides. As for reporting them, you take your life in your hands if you do so, they never get caught. All the Dept's have access to enquiring about a person claiming so as i asked previously how has this slipped through? I just can't get my head round it

Turning_into_scrooge

Dazzieboo wrote:

I am in 2 minds if I should post this or not !!

But, there is a family in the village where I live, who are claiming the full works, and working. One of them has been caught and prosecuted, the other 5 haven't. They have been reported on (grassed on, whatever you like to call it) loads of times and the response is always the same "we are monitoring them". I don't know how long they need to be monitored, but this has now been going on for 5 years.

So, some get away with it, others will not be so "lucky", I suppose it depends on where you live and how many other "large fish" your area has to catch first.

That just makes a total complete mockery of all the radio and televison adverts where they say so many have gone to prison for doing this

singlehouseholder

When someone is reported for commiting (sp?) benefit fraud, details are taken then input into a computer programme, depending on how many points are scored, that determines whether or not the dept will follow the fraud up. It often happens that, mr a reports mr b for working and claiming, it may be that mr a is doing some kind of permitted work, or that he is in receipt of a benefit that allows him to work so many hours, It may be that Mr b has not supplied enough information for the dept to score the fraud. I think a lot of the time people do not actually know what benefits others are getting. The fraud sections do receive numerous reports of benefit fraud, that may be malicous, that may not score highly, that are not even fraud- or they may be watching some-one to collate enough evidence to ensure that when the offence is taken to court that the case doesn't fall through.. To add to that, fraud resources arae being slashed, many "local fraud offices" are being closed and the work is being centralised. As well as headcount reductions which are ongoing in the civil service, it appears that the funds needed to monitor fraud are being cut back.. Its just a shame that people feel that they can commit fraud and think thats ok.. I couldn't do it, even if I was desperate, which I have been on many occasions!!

seven-day-weekend

As the poster above mentioned, there are benefits such as Incapacity Benefit, where you are allowed to work for a certain number of hours.

However, Jobseekers' Allowance is not one of them!

I really think you are going to have to come clean, offer to pay back the money and take the consequences.

seven-day-weekend

Well donne for coming clean, by the way. Loads of people have no conscience at all over this sort of thing.

jockettuk

oh yes they will find out.. they over paid me housing benefit and i went to court over it all.. thought it was sorted but 13 years later they sent me a letter saying i owed x amount and i had to pay it.. wasnt hiding or anything they just forgot about it till the computer kicked something up on my NI number and they chased me that way..

ikx

As for taking the moral high ground I and others who don't commit fraud can take it

Please. Spare your sermon for the empty church at which you pose. Such bankrupt "sympathy" as your bony heart might possess may be lavished upon starving orphans, or some-such other group that might not so easily talk back.

I am sorry you are now so agonised over this

Thank you, violetb. I will sort it out. I have no regrets, as I kept my home.

Broken_hearted

I have regrets talking to you is one of them.

Nile

Remember what Martin says:

Remember there's no such thing as a stupid question, pls be nice to all MoneySavers!

Martin's quote is just under the orange bar at the top of the page.

So.........let's all play nicely now.;)

Kind Regards

Nile

Broken_hearted

I was being nice you should have read what I first typed lol. It just makes me so mad.